Ke-il Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) If there is a reason for this, then i know for a fact that it is eluding me. If it's for the reason i think it is, then to be truly honest, "it's ***ing stupid". So my question is this: Why can't i send credits to other FACTIONS? If i'm republic, i can't send credits to a sith player, and visa versa. ^ | This is just plain and simply STUPID. Was this not alled because someone didn't want a Double agent to support the other faction, or something? I really fail to see why this is being restricted to one faction only. Could someone PLEASE explain this to me. Edited December 23, 2011 by Ke-il Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanorDM Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Could someone PLEASE explain this to me. Because the two factions are at war with each other, and Bioware wants the interaction between those factions to be limited to PvP encounters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfire Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Balance Gold farmers balance Lore etc., etc.. Did I mention Balance? Also list stuff on the Nar Shadda GTN and buy it with the opposite faction. Cred transfer right there. Also its PLAIN and not Plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tareel Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Why would two factions that are on the brink of war have mail service between each other? Just from a logistics standpoint that would be a nightmare, not to mention an intelligence (military type here) standpoint. When the cold war was going on, Americans could not walk into the local post office and mail something to the Soviet Union. same thing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLudovico Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Then why would they be able to sell weapons to the other faction in the neutral AH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLudovico Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Better yet, why can I get live holographic messages from people in other star systems, but I have to travel to a planet to get mail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke-il Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 It's a small typo, don't get so bent on something like that. omg, you are seriously throwing in the "at war with each other crap"? What if i have another character that i want to send money too? Why would that be "such a terrible thing" "oh my lord, this is terrible" The two are at war with each other, and he is sending credits to the other side. Don't understand how "balance" is a factor here. Guess I am the only one thinking this is retarded.. Other than teh PVPing, you hardly see the other faction, so who gives a damn. But whatever, if the first comments are like this, then, the rest won't be any better. So many over reacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke-il Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 Then why would they be able to sell weapons to the other faction in the neutral AH? Wow, thank you for pointing this out. Should be enough contradiction for the first few posters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLudovico Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) Oh I agree with you, but what about smugglers or BHs why cant they have the ability to send credits... they have nothing invested in this war besides money. As long as there is a neutral AH, the at war argument holds no water. Edited December 23, 2011 by VLudovico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelColt Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 While the lore is fine and all, letting it effect the metagame really is not the way to go. Whether the factions are at war or not should not be an issue. We, the players, are hardly at war and we play what we find interesting. Especially since some classes are faction-specific when they shouldn't be (I.E. Smugglers and BHs). All in all, players should be able to interact however they see fit. If a sith and jedi want to get together and chill in a bar drinking booze, then let them. The game's story is there as a backdrop, it shouldn't actually hinder player interaction since the only thing an MMO is good for is player interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorqueen Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Why would two factions that are on the brink of war have mail service between each other? Just from a logistics standpoint that would be a nightmare, not to mention an intelligence (military type here) standpoint. When the cold war was going on, Americans could not walk into the local post office and mail something to the Soviet Union. same thing here. You could send mail to the Soviet Union during The Cold War. Lots of people had penpals and still do with countries that are not considered allies with the US, Cuba, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wager Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Was there an English Speaking Nations Vote that I missed or something where we decided that 'Bias' meant, "Something I personally disagree with?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke-il Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) Was there an English Speaking Nations Vote that I missed or something where we decided that 'Bias' meant, "Something I personally disagree with?" Huh?! Edited December 23, 2011 by Ke-il Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke-il Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 No matter how you put it, this restriction is contradicting the GTN in the game, and pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mownt Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) I haven't used the neutral GTM yet but, doesn't it cost more to use it? If so that would be a "tax" on using it, if you were allowed to just send credits you wouldn't be charged the "tax". Although they could put something in to charge that "tax". The we are at war thing also applies. During war time a person sending money to the other side would be seen as supporting that side. Since you can't change sides in this game the only way to restrict supporting the other side is to limit what interaction you have with them. Edited December 23, 2011 by Mownt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanito- Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) Speaking as a Cuban, yes mail services are available (though quite unreliable - it's a crap shoot if it gets there), though Cuba is not at war with the US, it is under a state of embargo. During the cold war between the US and USSR, there was mail service but the countries were not in an actual state of war. For a modern example of a communication barrier between warring countries, you can look at North and South Korea. I believe the first "allowed" mail correspondace in 50 years between the two was made in the early 2000's but to my knowlege there is no current mail service between the two, nor with the US for that matter. Regarding the game, the Republic and the Empire are not in a state of war - the Treaty of Curuscant is in effect (such as it is). That said, given the actual political situation, I personally can accept if communication between the two factions' citizens is restricted. As for the Auction House, you could say that neutral intermediaries are being used - planet Switzerland . One could argue the same intermediaries could be used for the exchange of money but that would not be a direct exchange between the final parties (as the email system is). For example, my guess is that your best bet to mail something to North Korea today would be to use an intermediary in China. That said, you can probably justify the lore either way. Edited December 23, 2011 by Cubanito- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke-il Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 If this was possible to send credits to the other side, and i sent someone 500,000 credits, it's not going to make a huge impact on the game, or cause a catastrophic end to the game and all of a sudden cause that one side to win the invisible battle and tip the scales to their favour. I seriously fail to see the socalled bad implications of having this ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLudovico Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 There is no reason it should not be allowed, lore or other. Each faction should gain money the same rate, if not that's BWs fault. I can still sell a piece of aluminum for 50k at Nar Shadaa as an Operative and buy it with my Jedi. None of it makes sense other than that is the way it is in other games, and thats just BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke-il Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Exactly. I just wish everyone would stop calling everything "game breaking" or say it was in the name of "balance". This should be allowed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilthoras Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) What I usually do is put a grey item on the Nar Shaddaa AH for an absurd price on one side, and buy it on the other. Edited December 24, 2011 by Gilthoras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke-il Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 guess i'm going to have to do that then:( BTW, is Nar shaddaa the only place that had the neutral trade thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaranth Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I actually didn't realize you couldn't send credits to the other faction. I agree that that's a stupid restriction when it's possible to send mail to the other faction. I don't really care which way they go, but it should be all or nothing in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTijger Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 I actually didn't realize you couldn't send credits to the other faction. I agree that that's a stupid restriction when it's possible to send mail to the other faction. I don't really care which way they go, but it should be all or nothing in my opinion. You cannot send items either AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke-il Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 You cannot send items either AFAIK. yeap, correct you can't even mail them without any attachments either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ke-il Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 I just had a huge fight in the CHAT, yes, the chat... being called a trolls for stating this very fact. It's really pathetic the narrow minded view many of these players have. This always happen, the devs always listen to the d!psh*T trolls who outnumber the people who actualy have good ideas on how to make the game more enjoyable. This is pissing me off the more i think about it. And it's not like this will ever be made available. Great how one bad idea can really screw up a game. MMo community is like any other community, Trolls acting like they are the troll hunters, thinking they are the best. The community pretty much sucks dirt. So sick of the word troll, everyone uses it but hardly anyone knows what it means anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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