Korithras Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Mines have a red sphere around them which I'm presuming is their activation radius, meaning you'd have to get that close to set it off. Well I can avoid that area easily and still trigger the damn things, Bioware. How about an accurate area rendering, hm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroidDreamer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I think the goal is to make mines more visible. And the colored spheres help with that. Massive 8,000 meter diameter colored spheres are a bit of overkill, especially since bombers can drop three of each kind of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgrid Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I think the goal is to make mines more visible. And the colored spheres help with that. Massive 8,000 meter diameter colored spheres are a bit of overkill, especially since bombers can drop three of each kind of mine. I can drop 1 seismic mine. 2 interdiction mines if specced right. 3 concussion mines if specced right. 3 seeker mines if specced right. 3 ion mines if specced right. Pick two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroidDreamer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I can drop 1 seismic mine. 2 interdiction mines if specced right. 3 concussion mines if specced right. 3 seeker mines if specced right. 3 ion mines if specced right. Pick two. Derp, derp. Yes, pick two. Now imagine glowing colorful spheres that fill out the ENTIRE diameter of each of their ranges, factoring in increased radius via upgrades. THAT is the point, not the correct number of mines bombers can drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaivers Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I can drop 1 seismic mine. 2 interdiction mines if specced right. 3 concussion mines if specced right. 3 seeker mines if specced right. 3 ion mines if specced right. Pick two. So fully upgraded you can drop between 3-6 mines at a time? Interesting. Is this the same with drones? Has anyone tried making a team with all bombers just to see what happens? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemarus Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 So fully upgraded you can drop between 3-6 mines at a time? Interesting. Is this the same with drones? Has anyone tried making a team with all bombers just to see what happens? Lol. The most pets a Dronecarrier can have are 3 Seeker Mines, 2 Interdiction Drones, and 1 Repair Drone (6 total). A Minelayer can have 3 Seeker Mines, 3 Concussion/Ion Mines and a Hyperspace Beacon (7 total). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armonddd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 So fully upgraded you can drop between 3-6 mines at a time? Interesting. Is this the same with drones? Has anyone tried making a team with all bombers just to see what happens? Lol. Ran into a team that was 6/8 bombers yesterday, we didn't cap many points. I don't see what the problem would be with red spheres matching the range of the mines. Screen "clutter" is completely justifiable when it's low key and conveys vital information, and the current implementation does this on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroidDreamer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I have some UI feedback on drones and mines but it's not about the sphere matching their entire diameter which would just look cheesy. First, the targeting reticule icon should be a different color and shape. Right now its the same shape as when an enemy targeted but the same COLOR as all the other non-targeted targets, red. Second, each mine and each turret should have a distinctive look. Mines all look the same. Drones all look like defense turrets. The HUD should INSTANTLY show a distinctive drone/mine look. That will help the pilot identify the ranges of the drone/mine. Third, missile lock on and mine lock on sounds should make a DIFFERENT lock-on/proximity/warning sound than the missile lock-on. That's all I have for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slivovidze Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Third, missile lock on and mine lock on sounds should make a DIFFERENT lock-on/proximity/warning sound than the missile lock-on. Agreed with other stuff, but this is not really needed. No enemy will ever immediately have a missile fired your way, so it's very easy to distinct mine from missile lock-on. Missiles must go through at least 1,5s of the slow "locking on" beeping, while drones and mines go instantly to the "***** hit the fan" alarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroidDreamer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Agreed with other stuff, but this is not really needed. No enemy will ever immediately have a missile fired your way, so it's very easy to distinct mine from missile lock-on. Missiles must go through at least 1,5s of the slow "locking on" beeping, while drones and mines go instantly to the "***** hit the fan" alarm. Well, it would be nice to know if I just got hit by a missile or a mine. Reduces confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroidDreamer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 The other thing is that an 8k wide sphere doesn't help you while you're in it, though by then its too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzina Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Well, it would be nice to know if I just got hit by a missile or a mine. Reduces confusion. I think he was saying that there are clear and distinct differences between the two already, you just have to listen for it. <beep> <beep> <beep> <ALARM BEEPS> is concussion missiles. <beep> <beep> <beep><beep> <beep> <beep> <ALARM BEEPS> is a long-lockon and likely long-range missile. <silence> <ALARM BEEPS> is a Missile Defense drone. I hear what you're saying though, it'd be nice if the companion said something different like, "Drone missiles!" if it happened to be a drone that fired it. But our crew is not so great at using specifics to describe what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroidDreamer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I think he was saying that there are clear and distinct differences between the two already, you just have to listen for it. <beep> <beep> <beep> <ALARM BEEPS> is concussion missiles. <beep> <beep> <beep><beep> <beep> <beep> <ALARM BEEPS> is a long-lockon and likely long-range missile. <silence> <ALARM BEEPS> is a Missile Defense drone. I hear what you're saying though, it'd be nice if the companion said something different like, "Drone missiles!" if it happened to be a drone that fired it. But our crew is not so great at using specifics to describe what's going on. I see. Do evasive maneuvers foil missiles or mines once they are triggered/launched? It seems inconsistent to me. Part of the need for different alarm tones is to help the pilot determine whether to use a move to avoid the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armonddd Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I see. Do evasive maneuvers foil missiles or mines once they are triggered/launched? It seems inconsistent to me. Part of the need for different alarm tones is to help the pilot determine whether to use a move to avoid the damage. Anecdotally, it works with seeker mines, but possibly not with missile drones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Imo the red sphere should envelope the blast radius not the detection range. Getting redhulled instantly because my teammate is blind is not my idea of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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