Gambling is illegal

[Hyfy]

I've been following this thread just for the laughs its provided, but being a Vet myself i can't help but ask, are you suggesting he clean his weapon while on duty ? Cleaning your weapon is always done on your down time. Could you imagine, needing that weapon and there it sits in pieces.

 

I don't agree with Hazed or anyone else who feels they have have the right to tell others what they should or shouldn't do with THEIR time but cleaning your weapon(s) off duty is standard practice.

 

There's nothing wrong with a good field stripping and a quick cleaning either, especially if you've been rollin around in the muck and especially if you've fired it recently.

[LordArtemis]

We used to clean our weapons on duty....most of time after second formation, right after breakfast. We would check out our weapons from the armory and sit on the lanai and strip em.

 

That was on a slow day in the barracks. Better than painting the lanai, I can tell you that....

[The_Grand_Nagus]

Lets just say I know his job very well, and there are more important things to do than post on these forums almost 99% of the time.

 

That statement applies to pretty much every job of any professional level, with the sole exception of a video game community manager. So why arent you taking your own advice?

Edited October 5, 2013 by The_Grand_Nagus

[jedip_enguin]

Man, this is still going?

 

Can somebody give me the Cliffnotes? Or do I really need to wade through the drivel?

[XDoggStrafe]

I would offer some cliff notes, but from what I can tell a LOT of the convos have been redacted. Not sure what that means in this case, but nearly every post after my last one contains a section where it just goes "[Redacted]" and then continues on. But my basic understanding is, OP starts a thread about gambling being illegal, and how cartel packs are gambling in the legal sense. People post that it's not, as you always get something from it, OP tries to make it into a crusade to help people with gambling addictions, that fails, then moves onto business ethics. Now it seems to be about pot calling the kettle black. Hope that catches ya up dood.

 

P.S: can someone explain why a post would have [Redacted] in it on the forums? Is that the sign that a community manager removed some text because it's against the rules or what?

[Rafaman]

I would offer some cliff notes, but from what I can tell a LOT of the convos have been redacted. Not sure what that means in this case, but nearly every post after my last one contains a section where it just goes "[Redacted]" and then continues on. But my basic understanding is, OP starts a thread about gambling being illegal, and how cartel packs are gambling in the legal sense. People post that it's not, as you always get something from it, OP tries to make it into a crusade to help people with gambling addictions, that fails, then moves onto business ethics. Now it seems to be about pot calling the kettle black. Hope that catches ya up dood.

 

P.S: can someone explain why a post would have [Redacted] in it on the forums? Is that the sign that a community manager removed some text because it's against the rules or what?

 

Lol! No... the OP redacted, or more appropriately, went back an edited his posts himself. That should give you some indication of what has transpired here.

 

Well... the net, net, is the OP began with Cartel Packs and ended with War, Peace, and an interesting understanding of the word ethics.

 

I, for my part, redacted myself from posting for part of it. Just watched spiral down like a commode.

Edited October 5, 2013 by Rafaman

[XDoggStrafe]

Ah, thanks for the clarification on the redacted sections. As I said, a LOT of posts had it, between when I went to sleep (somewhere around page 27) and when I woke up (page 49 I think). So I missed out on most of what transpired between then and offered the best cliff notes I could from what I gathered when I woke up.

[Hyfy]

Lol! No... the OP redacted, or more appropriately, went back an edited his posts himself. That should give you some indication of what has transpired here.

 

Well... the net, net, is the OP began with Carte Packs and ended with War, Peace, and an interesting understanding of the word ethics.

 

I, for my part, redacted myself from posting for part of it. Just watched spiral down like a commode.

 

[REDACTED] apparently from the looks of some replies back to theOP was being used as a censor button {BEEP} as well.

Edited October 5, 2013 by Hyfy

[Stoofa]

LOL - only just realised that the OP edited his opening "post".

So his whole list of arguments and subsequent arguments about gambling, suing EA, definitions of words were fully mitigated by EA restricting the number of coins you can buy (standard practice).

I'm sure the fact that 95% of people in this thread totally disagreed with that he'd written has nothing to do with this edit.

[Vinjar]

I'm going to go on a limb here and say that EA's building full of lawyers worked this out prior to implementing the cartel packs.

[Hyfy]

I'm going to go on a limb here and say that EA's building full of lawyers worked this out prior to implementing the cartel packs.

 

I would say that is probably a safe bet. And by probably I mean, you can 100% bet your *** that they did.

[zachass]

Wow 52 pages in and people are still debating this nonsense?

[GARhenus]

no let it go on. it's awesome this way Edited October 9, 2013 by GARhenus

[CelCawdro]

I've harped on this ad nauseum elsewhere, but I'll lay it down here, too, I guess.

 

There's gambling in the literal, legal sense and gambling in the literary sense. The former refers to the actual act of playing a game of chance in which you can lose or gain financially, the latter serves as metaphor relating to the former act when taking a chance on something.

 

I rushed across the train tracks on my way to work today so I wouldn't have to take the long way around - I gambled with my life, but I wasn't actually gambling. When you set your own personal goal (ie. I want Revan's Mask for a Cartel Pack), you may make a personal gamble, but not in the literal, legal sense of the term. You are no more gambling with Cartel Packs than you are when you buy a new video game; there is a chance you might not like what you get, but that doesn't mean you literally gambled your money away.

 

Additionally, when you buy Cartel Coins (which is the only real monetary transaction taking place), you are exchanging your money for virtual goods. What those goods are used for thereafter in a virtual context is completely inconsequential. You got your Cartel Coins, and even if you were literally gambling (and you aren't), BioWare still wouldn't be liable.

Edited October 9, 2013 by CelCawdro

[johnduane]

I think OP should hire an attorney and notify law enforcement officials immediately.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or he might just want to see a psychiatrist for a few weeks about unfounded worry issues.

[ipsrambo]

Best troll thread of the month.

[CosmicKat]

I've harped on this ad nauseum elsewhere, but I'll lay it down here, too, I guess.

 

There's gambling in the literal, legal sense and gambling in the literary sense. The former refers to the actual act of playing a game of chance in which you can lose or gain financially, the latter serves as metaphor relating to the former act when taking a chance on something.

 

I rushed across the train tracks on my way to work today so I wouldn't have to take the long way around - I gambled with my life, but I wasn't actually gambling. When you set your own personal goal (ie. I want Revan's Mask for a Cartel Pack), you may make a personal gamble, but not in the literal, legal sense of the term. You are no more gambling with Cartel Packs than you are when you buy a new video game; there is a chance you might not like what you get, but that doesn't mean you literally gambled your money away.

 

Additionally, when you buy Cartel Coins (which is the only real monetary transaction taking place), you are exchanging your money for virtual goods. What those goods are used for thereafter in a virtual context is completely inconsequential. You got your Cartel Coins, and even if you were literally gambling (and you aren't), BioWare still wouldn't be liable.

 

Using that logic, converting $1000 cash into $1000 worth of flat discs with numerical values printed on them at a casino is not gambling either, since you aren't actually gambling with cash.

[Diefenbaker]

Using that logic, converting $1000 cash into $1000 worth of flat discs with numerical values printed on them at a casino is not gambling either, since you aren't actually gambling with cash.

It isn't. You only converted your $1000 cash into a value of plastic chips.

 

Now when you put those chips onto the red and black numbers next to a roulette wheel, then it turns into gambling.

 

You don't do that with CC. You buy them, then you buy one of the packs. There will be something in this pack. It may not be what you want, but you won't go empty if your number doesn't show up like in roulette. In roulette your money, at that point, is gone. With the CC you bought a product.