Aurbere Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) What about kyp durron/kyle katarn? Kyle Katarn was better as a Rebel Agent. Sure he was the Battlemaster, but so was Cin Drallig, and unfortunately any mention of Cin Drallig vs. Anakin (video game aside) is very unflattering to the Battlemaster. Edited September 14, 2013 by Aurbere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSUPREMESKILLZX Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Kyle Katarn was better as a Rebel Agent. Sure he was the Battlemaster, but so was Cin Drallig, and unfortunately any mention of Cin Drallig vs. Anakin (video game aside) is very unflattering to the Battlemaster. didnt he defeat some powerful dark jedi who was being amped by the valley of the jedi, while he was just a neophyte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) didnt he defeat some powerful dark jedi who was being amped by the valley of the jedi, while he was just a neophyte? He too was amped by the valley of the jedi, well...in regards to getting his force prowess back and all that noise. Yes he did beat several Dark Jedi...but that's just it...with barely any experience he beat them...that doesn't really show you how good those Dark Jedi were lol. Desann is the only real good one out of them but that doesn't say much, but even he was beat by Kyle who had surpassed him. Against a real Sith Lord(Darth Caedus), Kyle almost lost a leg. Edited September 14, 2013 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Against a real Sith Lord(Darth Caedus), Kyle almost lost a leg. Even with backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Even with backup. Well the backup saved him but yeah lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSUPREMESKILLZX Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 wasnt kyle focusing his efforts on protecting one of his wounded jedi allies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 wasnt kyle focusing his efforts on protecting one of his wounded jedi allies? That I can't remember...I know we discussed it beforehand, but dunno what it came to. Though still without his allies, Kyle would have lost a leg and more than likely died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I am pretty sure the fast, medium, strong styles are just game mechanics....they came out before the prequels(and thus actual Lightsaber forms) were introduced. Is there any actual canon evidence that the NJO used these so called forms? only a notes by Luke made in the Book of sith noting that the styles Bane called Strong and Fast were not the same as his own versions of Strong and Fast saying that the Strong in the book was really Djem So and that Fast was Soresu while his were hybridizations of those forms. So that's the only note of their exsistance. Also again Saba HAD to use 2 sabers to keep up with Corran and she normally just uses one as does Corran she CANT beat Corran in a straight saber fight when he is using 2 sabers. As far as I know the only ones that could were Luke Jacen and Jaina everyone else needed to resort to their force powers to best him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) only a notes by Luke made in the Book of sith noting that the styles Bane called Strong and Fast were not the same as his own versions of Strong and Fast saying that the Strong in the book was really Djem So and that Fast was Soresu while his were hybridizations of those forms. So that's the only note of their exsistance. I'm still skeptical....they did also find the Great Holocron which had all the lightsaber forms in it...in 40 ABY. I dunno...just having fast, medium, strong as lightsaber styles seems...stupid....It seems much better that the actual lightsaber forms be used You sure it wasn't retconned later? Edited September 14, 2013 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm still skeptical....they did also find the Great Holocron which had all the lightsaber forms in it...in 40 ABY. I know and that's why I know the best blade masters knew both the hybridization forms from Luke and the actual forms and that he still had all the techniques from obi-wan's journal even if he didn't know the names of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigdaddy Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Pretty sure it's been stated that in terms of Jedi, Yoda is/was and will always be the best swordsman in the order. Little bloke had mastered ALL the forms (least non ds exclusive ones). I believe Ataru is his most used one (due to his small stature and limited physical reach). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Let's not let this die people, when it's completed we get our beloved Kaggath back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Well seven has got to be Sora Bulq now, so no.8 is next up. A few names to throw out there: Vodo Siosk Baas, Saba Sebatyne, Kol Skywalker. Edited September 15, 2013 by LadyKulvax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Pretty sure it's been stated that in terms of Jedi, Yoda is/was and will always be the best swordsman in the order. Little bloke had mastered ALL the forms (least non ds exclusive ones). I believe Ataru is his most used one (due to his small stature and limited physical reach). Yoda was the best in the old Jedi Order, but Luke was the best in the new Jedi Order, and he surpassed Yoda, this was stated in the Real Most Powerful Lightsaber Duelist Thread (earlier thread open to Jedi and Sith), it was argued multiple times, and is canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Well seven has got to be Sora Bulq now, so no.8 is next up. A few names to throw out there: Vodo Siosk Baas, Saba Sebatyne, Kol Skywalker. Kol seems like a really good one there and I am still not sure Saba is over Corran Horn based on their saber duel with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Well seven has got to be Sora Bulq now, so no.8 is next up. A few names to throw out there: Vodo Siosk Baas, Saba Sebatyne, Kol Skywalker. Apparently Sora Bulq is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Apparently Sora Bulq is out. Stole my line . But yeah, he was a fallen Jedi in his prime, so he isn't a contender anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Apparently Sora Bulq is out. ya pretty sure that was because he was a dark jedi at the end and not a jedi, jedi. So the spots that seem most likely for 7 are Kol Skywalker, Saba Sebatyne or Corran Horn. I think Saba's force powers give her more of an edge then she would normally have and Corran still spars equal with her even when she is forced to use Jar'kai and he can just use his standard form. Kol is also a great one considering (if I am not mistaken) he was the Jedi's greatest warrior of his time and the way he died was epic as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) I nominate Shaak Ti. She was an immensely skilled duelist. She was also trained as a Consular, yet mastered two forms to extremely high levels, overcoming many of their weaknesses. She could stagger Starkiller using Makashi (overcoming its lack of kinetic motion) and was capable of "fighting a marathon using ataru" -Jensaarai1. Her blade work was impeccable. Edited September 15, 2013 by Canino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Kol Skywalker or Shaak Ti for 7 I say, sorry but no one went out in a more bad *** way than Kol Skywalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Kol Skywalker or Shaak Ti for 7 I say, sorry but no one went out in a more bad *** way than Kol Skywalker. honestly I am kind of really leaning Kol for number 7 here simply for his reputation and the awesome as hell way he went down taking all those guys with ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I nominate Shaak Ti. She was an immensely skilled duelist. She was also trained as a Consular, yet mastered two forms to extremely high levels, overcoming many of their weaknesses. She could stagger Starkiller using Makashi (overcoming its lack of kinetic motion) and was capable of "fighting a marathon using ataru" -Jensaarai1. Her blade work was impeccable. Actually, that's her Ataru coming in. Regardless, I would go for Ti for #7, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSelkie Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Yoda was the best in the old Jedi Order, but Luke was the best in the new Jedi Order, and he surpassed Yoda, this was stated in the Real Most Powerful Lightsaber Duelist Thread (earlier thread open to Jedi and Sith), it was argued multiple times, and is canon. Is it canon? I recall there being a consensus that Luke was more skilled than Yoda but there were no direct canon quotes to compare the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Kol was the greatest warrior of the whole New Jedi Order in his day, I would go for him, followed by Shaak Ti at 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I'd agree with Ti for #7, and Kol for #8... but really, anything to speed this up and get back to the Kaggath :D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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