iheartnyc Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) I have decided to run an experiment on the importance of gear in PVP. I typically average between 1000-1500 DPS in a regular warzone. All of my gear is fully min/maxed Conqueror with purple Strength augments. I do not use the Matrix Cube. What happens when I remove every piece of armor but retain weapons, earpiece, relics and implants? http://www.twitch.tv/eliteduelist/b/438282099 Based on my rough calculations, my initial conclusions are: 1) DPS drop of anywhere between 20-40%. 2) Roughly 50% increase in deaths (drop in DPS is going to be roughly correlated to increase in deaths) 3) Biggest hit is significantly lower (average 9000k dropping to 6000k). 4) Still can be highly effective in Regular, but absolutely worthless for Ranked Next time, I will run WZs with ONLY mainhand and no other piece of equipment. Edited July 31, 2013 by iheartnyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virus_Bot Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) Yeah figured as much by now. They sure "fixed" bolster eh.... I ain't grinding ****. especially when a new set is coming in October. And new augments too?... El Oh El Reusable Rakata stim ftw still, amirite gais! guys?.. hello?.. Edited July 31, 2013 by Virus_Bot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRENTakaBCAT Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 i think gear always helps but i dont think min maxed partisan vs conquer makes to big of a diffrence. All of my characters are either in partisan or half partisan and ive manage to break 2000DPS on 3 of them and im not that great of a player. Im sure better players can do way better. I just started playing my juggernaut that i havent touched since patch 1.2, Its in full champion gear so i bought a bunch of level 10 greens from the vender and was able to do 1700DPS in my first hutball (as smash of course). Personally i dont plan on gearing out any of my toons as i think its a waste of time. WIth arena right around the corner and a whole new set of gear i dont see the point in such a small upgrade but then again i play only a few hours a week and have many alts i like to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP_Legatus Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) There's a number of problems with your experiment. 1. You have slots empty, which doesn't bolster the way any other piece of gear would. Buy some level 1 greens. 2. Empty/bolstered gear typically doesn't get augmented, cuz you know, why spend 100k augmenting **** you replace in an hour. 3. You can't even do this experiment with relics because there really aren't any good "lowbie" relics that bolster at all. So yeah, buy some level 1's and augment them and leave your relics and maybe your implants/earpieces where they are. Then see how it all works out. Edited July 31, 2013 by JP_Legatus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottoattack Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Last night a blue 53 str/power/surg implant dropped in IIllum. I put in in WZ and compared the gain loss of stats between it and conqueror implant and the result.... I gained 3 bonus damage, surge stayed the same and lost 10 expertise. I was really really sad knowing that I spent 1,425 RWZ and 200 WZ comms for nothing, and that's top PvP crap compared to a lvl 53 blue PvE implant... Please explain to how is this working as "intended." Edited August 2, 2013 by Ottoattack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-RANDLE Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Bolster doesn't work for naked people, but my burst was better in my min/max "converted" EWH pants +legs than it is in Conq gear, as I examined my combat logs. Same thing with my purple 53 Ear versus my Conq ear. So I guess the answer of your "question" does hold merit, in an odd, twisted kinda way. Yes... gear still matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
announcerharris Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) So your conclusion is that wearing gear is better than not wearing gear? I'm glad you're here to tell us these things! Chewie, take the professor in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive! Edited August 2, 2013 by announcerharris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDavis Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 So your conclusion is that wearing gear is better than not wearing gear? I'm glad you're here to tell us these things! Chewie, take the professor in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive! Unfortunately there was a bug when 2.0 launched allowing people with no gear to be bolstered above pvp gear. O how I miss seeing the naked Jedi leap to me and smash for 10k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) The question "does gear really matter" is usually answered with a combination of "no, only your skill" and "L2P". Edited August 3, 2013 by AlrikFassbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanas Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 People with 30k hp (DPS) completely stomp people with 25k or so... Yes It does matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralParmesan Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Augments matter, beyond that you might as well keep your partisan gear and save yourself the money. After all its not like you gained any money from pvping in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceasaigh Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Expertise matters, so that makes PvP gear matter. Duel someone with 2018 expertise when you have sub 1800 and see what happens. You don't hit hard enough to matter and your dead in 10 seconds despite all the skill you may think you have. To be competitive in PvP you need max expertise PERIOD! End of discussion. Partisan gear is easy to get, there really is no excuse to PvP without it and have 2018 expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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