Red_Vs_Blue Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Mate, datacrons are supposed to be hard to get, it's a free permanent stat bonus or a relic as you said. I agree about the lack of introduction, tbh i just found one on korriban when i started on accident. But they are in more or less obvious locales if you think about it. Hidden path ways. Elevated platforms. Not always there, but present. I think it would be somewhat cool if they were like a random mini-world event "A datacron has been spotted by our spies, go to locale XX to find it" With locale XX being one hellishly impossible region to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartumandua Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Another MMO player ruined by the 'hand holding' that WoW encouraged so much. If only some of these people played Anarchy Online around launch, their eyes would bleed. now that was a DISASTROUS launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeiq Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I like them as they are. They should be hard to get and hard to find so everyone won't get them. Players that put in the effort get to be stronger and it helps to have an edge for serious pvp players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernetic Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I don't think the datacron system is the problem it's that they give stats. If they give other tangible rewards that didn't effect combat (pets, mounts, titles, etc, etc, etc) it would be fine. As it is now any player who takes raiding and/or PVP seriously will get to 50, read a guide online, and go find them all with their level 50 speeder. It's just another useless time sink as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tic- Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I honestly believe, that there is nothing that a developer can add to an MMO that people will not complain about. Its gotten rather pathetic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Areka Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 It's there to encourage exploration. I like it. It's there to encourage platform(pipes, boxes...) jumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldPush Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Only datacron I have issue sith is the stupid 1hour baloonride one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GymQuirk Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Heaven forbid a game developer reward players for exploring in the world they created. Personally, if I see a glowing cube in the world I can click on, i'd probably click on it. I don't need a quest to tell me to. Since they have the "Quest" triangle floating above them when you find them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growlypants Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I like how people keep complaining about things being to difficult...I like the way you have to explore and it through's some problem solving into the game I think it is fun and creative... The only part of this post I agree with is an introduction to datacrons saying the two types and how many are in each zone (3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizark Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 They give permanet boost as such they are MANDATORY for any serious player. This is my problem with them. It's cool that they encourage and award exploration, but with the system as it is, I will simply google the locations of them all and consider it a hassle. If they gave something like large XP, gold, or item reward it would be much better. Permanent stats are just too required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kar_Rak Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 The only thing I agree with is having a quest which introduces it. Appart from that, I love the system as it is, as the boost isn't that "must have" for hardcore players, it's just like a minigame which I'm enjoying a lot with my guildmates! Also it makes us explore the planets and see rare zones. It's a nice feature, I'm pleased to have it ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimG Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 To sum up the OP's post: Spoonfeed me the datacrons and make them easy to obtain. No thanks. We already have rewards for killing enemies. Don't need more. These are rewards for exploration. If the datacrons were all popping up on our maps and easy to get, then everyone would have them and there would be no point to them. The bonuses are very small and not game-changers....it's completely optional. There are other ways to get relics too. The datacrons are all visible with their lights shining up towards the sky....although not so visible that they can easily be spotted. Frankly, don't think the datacrons are a big secret. I constantly see people talking about the datacrons in general chat. Most games have these sorts of things that people learn about from others playing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epistemify Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I personally love the datacron system. I've only found a few, but they are small and non-essential yet do have tangible benefits to getting. They encourage exploration, and encourage you to navigate terrain in ways that haven't had to do in other MMOs. But mostly, they are fun. I like being always on the lookout for them (because they could be anywhere). They are a small extra bonus added into the game, and they are working just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheezecake Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Further compounding the difficulty - the keyboard and mouse are imprecise platforming tools, Can i have some of what your smoking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechavomit Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) I just had the most fun today jumping for HOURS after datacrorns on Nar Shadaa with a few of my buddies. No sarcasm here. We even had to duel a few times so some of us could be "force pushed" and then "charged" to hard-reachable platforms. Edited December 26, 2011 by Mechavomit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheala Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 The datacron system is truly terrible. I don't have hours and hours to jump around pretending that this is some b'stard love child of Pokemon & SuperMario but it vex's me. It just isn't fun at all. 'Don't do it then!' i hear you say, but if don't then i get a lamed character at end game. By all means put something in there for people that want to pokemon the lot of them, some speical item, but don't gimp those that pay money to pretty much HAVE to do something that drive them mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFWOXOF Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Word. The problem is the physical mechanics, not the lack of desire to explore. Some of the jumping is trivial, but some (Republic Cunning on Tatooine) is just an exercise in frustration. The fun is sussing out how to get to the odd spot in the game environment, not the mechanics of not falling off the roof for the umpteenth time. If I'd wanted to play run/jump/kick/spin games, I'd have stuck with the n-th implementation of Halo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeruleanNite Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Most of the datacrons are able to be obtained with a little effort and plenty of people have already done it so it is not impossible. If they made them easier to get then we would have threads saying Oh the Datacrons are to easy! People have trouble with something in game and they just feel obligated to come on and complain about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebbikenezer Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Seems to me a lot of people posting, including OP, don't have much invested into the lore aspect and background. Datacrons, regardless of age, have been found or recovered/discovered.... numerous different places, through tons and tons of methods. You know, I guess some people like that aspect and the surprises it brings while others (In my opinion) need their hand held so they can have everything anyone else was lucky enough to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiewas Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 first of all, never use yellow text. or any color but the defualt. it makes you seem like an ***. TOR is not an built for exploration and discovery, so the datacrons prompt and justify a bit of exploration. they give a bit of purpose to otherwise random jumping and justify the OCD corner checkers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyfeld Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Heaven forbid a game developer reward players for exploring in the world they created. Personally, if I see a glowing cube in the world I can click on, i'd probably click on it. I don't need a quest to tell me to. Communist MMO concepts for ALL... The problem, as I see it, is that most of the datacrons don't actually reward exploration, they reward obsessive compulsiveness. The wide majority of datacrons aren't hidden somewhere that's fun to explore, or as part of an easter egg, or even surrounded by beautiful hidden pockets of scenery. They're often shoved up into a corner of an area that has no redeeming value except for being cramped and out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciqala Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 No it doesn't, ppl just moan about anything and everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoLager Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Datacrons should be account wide for that server. Like add it into the legacy system or something. Farming them up the first time is fun and interesting. But by the 3rd time, it has lost its novelty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedreep Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) I like them how they are. I don't want everything fed to me. I want to feel like I accomplished something. This game is already easy mode please don't ask them to take away the one challenging thing it has. Edited February 12, 2012 by Nedreep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleinar Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Our guild did the +10 datacron together the other night. It was really fun, and a test on communication and cooperation. Datacrons are fine as they are, if anything, they should add more at even harder locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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