illuzian Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Okay so I have: i7 3770k Dual 680s Windforce OC edition in SLI 16GB ram 2x SSD - one primary SSD and one SSD cached platter drive. Swtor is on the main SSD, I've tried playing the game with SLI off/on and I've tried SWTOR unleashed but from time to time I get crazy mad fps drops from say 100FPS(seems capped at that) down to 20fps and I get crazy mad stutter which really hurts in warzones. Anyone have any weird/normal suggestions like turning HT off or chaning C states etc? Edited June 21, 2013 by illuzian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenBrooks Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Pre-rendered frames to 1 will help with stutter you should be doing better then my single 670gtx I would of thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCanukk Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Okay so I have: i7 at 3.7Ghz Dual 680s Windforce OC edition in SLI 16GB ram 2x SSD - one primary SSD and one SSD cached platter drive. Swtor is on the main SSD, I've tried playing the game with SLI off/on and I've tried SWTOR unleashed but from time to time I get crazy mad fps drops from say 100FPS(seems capped at that) down to 20fps and I get crazy mad stutter which really hurts in warzones. Anyone have any weird/normal suggestions like turning HT off or chaning C states etc? .. This game does run on SLI but it runs better on 1 card + 2 680's is way over kill. Your stuttering is partially coming from the fps rate dropping below your minitor refresh rate and when that happens in sli the game stutters like a b***h run on one GTX 680 Turn shadows to low first and see what happens. In my office system i am running a GTX560 and everything on high except shadows and character aa and im getting 90-100 regularly. Edited June 13, 2013 by CrazyCanukk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuzian Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) I've tried running with one 680 setting the high preset and turning shadows off but the problem is still there. When the FPS drops I get mostly red with intermittent green flashes. EDIT: Also have tried pre-rendered frames at 1-4 no real noticeable improvement - in fleet and PvP it just stutters like mad when things are happening EDIT2: Also thanks for the replies guys - bit slow and lacking in punctuation atm doing a second 10 hour shift at work with only a 4 hour break between Edited June 13, 2013 by illuzian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuzian Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) So far I've tried the following Updated video BIOSRemoved sound card and switched to on boardGame is on SSDTried SWTOR Unleashed - no improvement except loading times slightlyUpdated to latest Nvidia driver releaseForced settings the High Performance in NVIDIA settings for SWTORTried overclockChecked individual core temps - nothing abnormalChecked individual GPU temps - nothing abnormalTried with an without SLI - no real noticeable differenceUpdated SSD firmwareTried running in XP SP3 compat modeInstalled directx runtimesEDITED ADDITIONSVsync is offHave tried windowed and fullscreen windowed Basically I get 60-100FPS with not characters on screen then when I get characters pop in I get 20-40 FPS with significant stuttering. It's absolutely horrible. I really have no idea what's going on. I've run a 3dmark 11 bench to ensure my cards aren't doing anything funky and I get ~X6000 which is the extreme bench which is decently high. Edited June 22, 2013 by illuzian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedaii Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Welcome to SWTOR I've been having these issues since Dec 2011. Have left the game 3 times and returned. I love it so much. Dam shame the devs dont know how to fix their own game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuzian Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 There are people who "report" to have consistent FPS above 30 so there must be a cause for the issue. Just wish I knew what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PdubMugato Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 V-Sync off or on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKandrew Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Any people try to say there is nothing wrong with the game engine. Take note of threads like these and think the next time you want to offer someone worthless advice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuzian Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) V-Sync off or on? I always have vsync off Edited June 22, 2013 by illuzian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avicii Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I have just this past week began to experience this in WZs as well not sure *** is going but it's annoying as all hell. I haven't gone through my PC to the extent you have yet but I am going to update my drivers again and see of that helps. Of you figure out what resolves it would be nice to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDevilZero Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) What helped me on my fps problems was one solution these forums produced, something about a NVIDIA INSPECTOR. Search that solution on these forums as it really will help you seeing as it's the only solution that's helped mine. Edited June 22, 2013 by DeathDevilZero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDevilZero Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 What helped me on my fps problems was one solution these forums produced, something about a NVIDIA INSPECTOR. Search that solution on these forums as it's really will help you seeing as its the only solution that's helped mine. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=591313 There it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojogunne Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Here is a idea, and I base this off my own experience, my comp is pretty decent and I was having the same fps issues. I have been using a flat screen AOC monitor with DVI output for the longest time and one day I decided to try out how hdmi looked on the game so I hooked the computer up to my TV and BAM the game ran so much more smoothly and I was able to run the game on higher graphic settings and not have such a drop in fps. I am not saying this is a fix but something definitely worth trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedaii Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=591313 There it is Thx for posting this. Will check it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfius Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) First of all, red or green FPS when dropping? (CPU or GPU/SLI issue causing it) Second - CPU or GPUs overclock and temperatures during play/FPS drop? Third - OS version and resident software? (DX9 added, VC++ updated & so on) Edited June 22, 2013 by morfius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrah Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 You might try removing the overclocks to test if they are involved at all. I had similar issues in certain locations, and it was my cpu running too hot and throttling back. It seems like this would show up during your benchmarks etc. if that was the issue, but it wouldn't hurt to try without the overclocks just to eliminate that as a possible cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectreclees Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) First of all, red or green FPS when dropping? (CPU or GPU/SLI issue causing it) Second - CPU or GPUs overclock and temperatures during play/FPS drop? Third - OS version and resident software? (DX9 added, VC++ updated & so on) According to a Bioware post: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=4748197 Greetings All, So the actual explanation of the FPS display colors: Red = Rendering bound/Video Card Green = Simulation bound/CPU Yellow = Mix of both Current FPS (Lowest FPS over the last 10 seconds or so) @nrazen_nl: some things just don't get into the patchnotes. Thank you for playing Star Wars: The Old Republic[/Quote] Edited June 22, 2013 by spectreclees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockaday Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Any people try to say there is nothing wrong with the game engine. Take note of threads like these and think the next time you want to offer someone worthless advice... And Yet I use a 6870 and a an i5 2500k and hit 100 fps no problem. Normally 50-80 fps. :/ Everything maxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfius Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) According to a Bioware post: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=4748197 I am asking what color OP get, not what colors mean. Edited June 24, 2013 by morfius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuzian Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) I get red whenever I have a dip. So new stuff has been done - I've been having an issue with my PC turning off and had already replaced the PSU so the mobo went along with a new closed water cooling loop and a new SSD. Fresh install on Win 7 on a new SSDNew motherboardGame on different SSD And that hasn't fixed it at all. Unless someone can think up a magic trick I'm pretty sure it's not me. I retested my 3dmark 11 score and it was X6667 which is great(x for extreme). Edited June 24, 2013 by illuzian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfius Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Remove one of the video cards entirely and test with only one. Test it in OC and without OC (OC in SWTOR sometimes lead to throttling) Check your PC power plan . Edited June 24, 2013 by morfius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-LC Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 bro i have a readeon 7950 and i still get red wich means the vid cart is the problem so its bs. fk u bioware and ea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuzian Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Remove one of the video cards entirely and test with only one. Test it in OC and without OC (OC in SWTOR sometimes lead to throttling) Check your PC power plan . If you read above I've already written that I've done the above. Considering I get consistently good FPS in all other games acceptable for 2x 680s and I've already tested it with and without SLI on I won't be removing a card. My PC power plan is on high performance, things like min/max proc state and various other settings known to cause issues I always change in new installs. I'm not getting any throttling, I use AIDA64 to burn in, while I am now on a 4.4Ghz OC my stability test ran overnight at a max individual core temp of about 87C and recorded no throttling. EVGA precision X has my cards target power at max but isn't on an overclock. I might add though that on a fresh install and this new mobo the frame drops are quite a lot smoother and I would expect some dips but I'm still tanking at 20 quite a lot. Edited June 25, 2013 by illuzian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectreclees Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) I am asking what color OP get, not what colors mean. My mistake I thought you were trying to say what the colors were. Edited June 25, 2013 by spectreclees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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