kenspeckle Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 /signed. I got 2 jawagrams in a pack today. Very disappointing and seems like BW is rubbing it in the faces of the gamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drebs Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Honestly, after hearing about the number of these things people are getting, I'm actually going to hold off on purchasing /opening cartel packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syllogi Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Agreed, I was really tempted by the new items in this pack, but Jawagrams are the worst, and the fact that they are one time use and rare is just insulting the people who are spending real money on packs, hoping for something worth the effort. Hope this thread gets attention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusRex Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 They should change them to emotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwena Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I agree. I haven't opened many packs, and have been pretty lucky with those that I have, though to have a silly consumable item take up a "rare" slot is just ridiculous. They are fine additions to cartel packs, but to have them in the same category as highly desirable mounts and armor is somewhat insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankiel Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Well no more packs for me. Maybe they will learn if people stop buying them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPryde Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 Well no more packs for me. Maybe they will learn if people stop buying them... This is about the only way, we can change anything. Deny them the only thing they want from us... money. I used to buy 3-5 packs of each new cartel packs, just for fun. I stopped that because of a "rare consumable". I do not mind the little lottery that the packages always are, but I am not willing to accept a blank and that is exactly, what jawagrams are to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negamus Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I bought a couple of packs and half had jawagrams, that's it for me, no more packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWidowmaker Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 sick of jawagrams, useless crafting mats, and the tons of bracers and belts, personally would like more things like the emotes in place of those, or even credit boons... but these things as the rare? what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaknaffien Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I also will refuse to buy ANY more crates until they fix what you get inside them. I said it before and I'll say it again, Jawagrams? Really? Lvl 50 crafting items? Really? I even feel the extra emotes are pretty useless. Recoloring armors and calling them new...lazy and lacks imagination. Suggestions: 1. Make more UNIQUE speeders. Keep them super rare in packs. 2. Come up with UNIQUE armor. (not that recolored stuff) 3. Add more Credit Boom chances. 4. Remove Jawagrams from packs or make them NOT take up a rare/super rare spot. 5. Create Double XP boosts. 6. Remove the bound timer on items you do get in the packs. Terrible idea to have those on in the first place. How about you (BW) give the customers what WE want not what you wish to waste eveyone's RT money with? I do realize that this will fall on deaf ears (BW), but had to say it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatninja Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I agree, Jawagrams are completely stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanRelique Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I don't dislike Jawagrams, but they have no place in cartel packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobur Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Dancer outfits do need to go along with changing jawagrams. Its the reason i don't buy them anymore , way too much filler nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyrupTor Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I agree, remove them completely and put such useless fluff in some of the useless vendors that are on every world. the ones that do light, medium, heavy armor and the weapons, no one buys them, EVER so they are completely pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrtGorilla Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I have stated it in another thread of my creation but I am adding it here. Until Jawagrams and Exp boosts are removed from Cartel packs I will not buy another one. The reason is that I bought a Hypercrate x24 of the new Vice Commandants packs and got 7 rares out of the lot that were not either jawagrams or Exp boosts. That is ridiculous. I spent About $60 cash on those 24 packs and the value of what I got amounted to less than 1 million credits once it is sold on the GTN. This is terrible. Fix it Bioware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsheraII Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Dancer outfits do need to go along with changing jawagrams. Its the reason i don't buy them anymore , way too much filler nonsense. And there weren't even any dancer outfits in the 2 latest packs. It's very simple, people. They want to keep some sense of rarity to certain items. So those items drop from only ~2 percent of the boxes. Now, what to do with the other 98 percent? Well, there's some more nice and desirable stuff to throw in, but... THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A LEAST DESIRABLE ITEM TO FILL THE LAST COUPLE OF PERCENTS! If it wasn't the Jawagram that's least desirable, it would've been the Covert armor pieces (plenty complaints about those too) If the covert armor pieces were taken out as well, people would complain about the relaxed items from the latest set Take those out as well, and people will complain about the Thull armors Take out the Thull armors, and people will complain that Thana's auxillery armor pieces drop too often. Untill every single pack only drops the one thing nobody complained about (yet). Great idea to give people some sense of exclusivity when opening their box and find a Cartel Decadent Skiff or whatever is topping the desirability charts, yet again. Also a great way to get people to buy more than one pack. NOT. So, as much as I hate getting 2 jawagrams in one pack as well (happened only once to me, out of 2 hypercrates), there will ALWAYS be things in those packs that you're not particularly fond of. And chances are, that those things are slightly more common than the items you're really after. I'd really like to see an update to the Jawagrams, making them bound after use, but re-usable, so whoever received the thing from another player can watch it again and again and again. But they definitely serve their purpose as a filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaron Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 (edited) I'd really like to see an update to the Jawagrams, making them bound after use, but re-usable, so whoever received the thing from another player can watch it again and again and again. But they definitely serve their purpose as a filler. That's really the only beef I have with them, that they are one use items - whereas all the other "useless" items that you've listed are at least permanent rewards. I even prefer the little stupid bouncing balls. Edited April 27, 2013 by Callaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPryde Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Maybe I can interest a few people to comment on my other suggestion in this section of forum... Cartel Flea Market In short: Allow all cartel items to be exchanged for cartel commendations and let all cartel items be buoght for these commendations at obvious high but still reasonable prices. If e.g. A revans Mask would cost 2000 comms, I would "only" need to colecct 2000 jawagrams and be done with. The useless items would then be given a small value as compared to their current total filler status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
althene Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) While "rare" Jawagrams are annoying, I'd like to see something done with rep tokens once you're capped out on cartel rep. I think having a vendor (or listing on an existing cartel vendor) that exchanges these tokens at varying rates depending on quality for cartel certificates would be a welcome addition. Perhaps 10:1 for green tokens, 5:1 for blue and 3:1 for artifact tokens. In this way, at least you could eventually get something you wanted for one of your characters instead of paying real cash for a jawagram, useless rep token and some crafting materials that might have been usefull 6 months ago. Edited April 28, 2013 by althene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Jawagrams should be re-usable but much much less common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themanthatisi Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) We all want this jawagram garbage to go, there is only one way it will happen... we all have to stop buying cartel packs. I am refusing to buy ANYTHING from the CM until this is properly addressed, I support business and making profits, but I do not support "ripping off" people to do it. Edited April 29, 2013 by Themanthatisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grue_Hunter Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 signed! They're an utter waste of time and money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themanthatisi Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Maybe I can interest a few people to comment on my other suggestion in this section of forum... Cartel Flea Market In short: Allow all cartel items to be exchanged for cartel commendations and let all cartel items be buoght for these commendations at obvious high but still reasonable prices. If e.g. A revans Mask would cost 2000 comms, I would "only" need to colecct 2000 jawagrams and be done with. The useless items would then be given a small value as compared to their current total filler status. I liked your idea.... I do think BW has another plan. By making us have lots of junk in packs, that are not easily sold, they force us to need more cargo and since the in game price for bay 3 and beyond is expensive, they figured we would now need to buy bays with CC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratuaCuun Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 /signed I'm generally satisfied with what's been added, but I don't give a flying fig about the jawagrams >< if we HAVE to have them, at least make them sellable - and if nothing else lower them to the useless junk rating... I'd rather have more companion relationship booster or crafting junk than MORE jawagrams >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinnfein_Winters Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Actually just remove the Jawagram altogether. Seriously if you want them in the game, then just make them available at a vendor. They are pointless and a waste of CC that we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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