ParnXterminator Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) Been running this since 1.4. Crazy defense with fade and maul is nasty. discuss...... http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#200rIMozdskZfhbRkbZo.2 Edited October 1, 2012 by ParnXterminator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryvirath Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 It's probably pretty sweet against all these smashers. 70%ish off the smash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismercu Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Is maul better now didnt it lose like 50% armor penetration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryvirath Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Is maul better now didnt it lose like 50% armor penetration? Maul is a lot better. It's not only half the cost (12.5 down from 25), it hits with plus 50% damage. Well geared players are looking at 6k crits on sages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParnXterminator Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 It's probably pretty sweet against all these smashers. 70%ish off the smash. yeah, don't even notice people smashing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryvirath Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 yeah, don't even notice people smashing A bit of a tradeoff I'd think though. You give up death field, double shocks, and thrash crit chance. Infil makes up for some of that with maul, but the real gain is the tankiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggilus Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Not tried a hybrid since 1.4 went live - just went full Deception with chain shock. Survivability is immense. As stated smashy smashy I just don't realise half the time, get crit smashed for 2k-ish. A crit from Maul (75% damage increase isn;t it?) chain shock and discharge has three shot many scoundrels and sages for me. And that is why I'm a little reluctant to give up the top tier stuff from Deception as it's focused on discharge and shock hitting harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sototh Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Would any of you mind posting the build? Thx in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalLeoman Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) I have to agree. It takes people down fast! Edited September 30, 2012 by ImmortalLeoman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makiemoffa Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Why would you start a thread without posting your spec? Not only does it limit the discussion but people cannot try it out to provide feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParnXterminator Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 edited to add link to spec sorry, figured common sense woutd tell you what skills you would use for synergy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makiemoffa Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 edited to add link to spec sorry, figured common sense woutd tell you what skills you would use for synergy Yeah sorry, I just levelled an assassin and was unfamiliar with the talents. After a bit of researching and looking at deception, it becomes quite obvious there is nearly only one set up that is optimal with 17 points in the deception tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azoth_ Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 What charge are you using with this? and are you using a shield or focus? survival/stalker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParnXterminator Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) 1139 power 160 Crit Focus for offhand Survivor set 5% damage with guard and 20 sec spikes Dark Charge Edited October 1, 2012 by ParnXterminator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cupofwater Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I have been running this build as well, extremely tanky with some nice maul hits, I could hit 4.2k-4.8k. Downside no real aoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achyuta Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Been running this since 1.4. Crazy defense with fade and maul is nasty. discuss...... http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#200rIMozdskZfhbRkbZo.2 Link is broke... I had to copy and the paste the code... lol. Anyway, what do you use for your starting rotation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParnXterminator Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 thrash, until maul or energize proc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucehawwk Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 edited to add link to spec sorry, figured common sense woutd tell you what skills you would use for synergy Hell yeah haha these dumb ****s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crixa Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) I've been rocking this build on an alt for months now actually w/ surprising success. 1.4 was just icing on the cake. I finally hit 50 today though and am trying to decide on a set of gear. The stalker set's extra range on force slow/jolt looks so nice but I find myself wondering how well the 5% while guarding from survivor would scale w/ this build since I often find myself pitching in by bubbling a healer or another dps. Can anyone w/ experience in the 50s bracket share some insight? Additionally, since most tankassins are darkness/madness, I offer that we call this spec the "shankassin" due to its unique gameplay style Edited October 8, 2012 by Crixa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfallibleArin Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 If you run Dark Charge why do you have points in Surging Charge and Induction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParnXterminator Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 If you run Dark Charge why do you have points in Surging Charge and Induction? The maul hits harder. There is nowhere else to put the points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soull Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) this build is great for node guarding, huttball running, and placing guard on FF targets (like healers). if you want to play a spec totally built for defense, this is the spec to roll. you will lack the utility of hybrids, or even 31 point darkness builds. 31 darkness gives wither, which has an aoe snare (small, but its there) and a damage reduc. the 23/1/17 builds have a bit more utility with deathfield (great for stopping caps) and insta whirlwind (great for taking on 2v1's). all that being said, i'm enjoying the buff to deception, and rocking a 0/33/8 build, demolishing healers, taking out snipers/slingers, solo capping nodes, and destroying huttball carriers. i do miss force pull, and the breaking of roots with force speed. but the damage....oh the damage. its hard to give up. Edited October 10, 2012 by Soull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropbearSW Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 why take a point in premonition and not do dark ward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrubinMuhTub Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Because most of them choose to have 220ish power over any chance to shield absorb. If you don't wear a shield, then dark ward would serve no purpose. That isn't to say it's the only way though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropbearSW Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Because most of them choose to have 220ish power over any chance to shield absorb. If you don't wear a shield, then dark ward would serve no purpose. That isn't to say it's the only way though. Thanks for that explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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