InariOkami Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Not sure if it's just me, but recklessness has been giving ridiculously low amounts of crit recently. In the last 2 days I've had 5 instances where I'll go the entire duration without having a SINGLE crit (not counting energized shocks) including death fields that 0 out of 3 with recklessness. I have 25% crit buffed, so it should put me at 85%. I can understand not critting once (15% chance), even not critting twice (2.25%) occasionally, but 3 times in a row (0.3%) on a regular basis (at least 2-3 times a warzone) is ridiculous. Not to mention FOUR to FIVE times in a row. It seems to me something is drastically wrong with the numbers. Anybody else getting this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled-Phoenix Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I've had rare cases where both my shock and discharge did not crit whilst having recklessness up (2 charges). But, that only happened once to me before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarvester Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Try to get your Force Critical chance up to 40%. That's when Recklessness shines the most. When I use the ability on my Sage, I'm guaranteed a 100% crit chance for my next 2 heals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rynis Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 The trouble I'm having with recklessness is when it doesn't work for my attack. I'll use shock and it won't eat a charge of recklessness and it won't crit. Happens quite often So recklessness seems kinda buggy for me. Also If I use death field and hit 3 people is it supposed to take all my charges of recklessness? Been wondering that for awhile, because in my opinion it should only take one because it's one attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okema Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Didn't you know? It's part of the new stealth nerf for shadows, that and the stuns that now go through resilience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaphael Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 The trouble I'm having with recklessness is when it doesn't work for my attack. I'll use shock and it won't eat a charge of recklessness and it won't crit. Happens quite often So recklessness seems kinda buggy for me. Also If I use death field and hit 3 people is it supposed to take all my charges of recklessness? Been wondering that for awhile, because in my opinion it should only take one because it's one attack. It only takes 1 charge per cast. Regardless of how many people it hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rynis Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 It only takes 1 charge per cast. Regardless of how many people it hits. See that's what I thought! BUT whenever I use an AOE...whither/deathfield/discharge in tank stance...it takes all my charges and pisses me off lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmsutton Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 If your stance does it's small amount of extra damage that is considered a force power, and if it crits that will eat up a charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaphael Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 See that's what I thought! BUT whenever I use an AOE...whither/deathfield/discharge in tank stance...it takes all my charges and pisses me off lol. Must be different for tank stance then. Using Madness spec I've never seen this happen in Lightning stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 See that's what I thought! BUT whenever I use an AOE...whither/deathfield/discharge in tank stance...it takes all my charges and pisses me off lol. I feel as I've experienced the same thing with Wither specifically. Let's test it further and confirm our own suspicions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) I feel as I've experienced the same thing with Wither specifically. Let's test it further and confirm our own suspicions. Tested last night, combat log confirms that crits on multiple targets with Wither consumes both charges of Recklessness. When soloing world bosses or random dailies, I normally build up 3 stacks of HD, thrash to proc energize, then recklessness -> force lightning -> shock to get the most and highest possible number of crits from Recklessness. That's why I didn't find too many, but in looking through last nights random play logs I got at least 2 samples out: 01:17:05.574 Fiera activates Recklessness. 01:17:05.574 Fiera gains Recklessness. 01:17:05.667 Fiera parries Jedi Tactician's Assault, causing 1 threat. 01:17:05.668 Jedi Tactician's Assault hits Fiera for 183 energy damage, causing 183 threat. 01:17:05.970 Jedi Tactician's Merciless Slash glances Fiera for 416 energy damage, causing 416 threat. 01:17:06.109 Fiera:Talos Drellik's Ranged Attack hits Jedi Tactician for 236 energy damage, causing 236 threat. 01:17:06.151 Fiera:Talos Drellik's Ranged Attack hits Jedi Tactician for 302 energy damage, causing 302 threat. 01:17:06.244 Fiera activates Wither. 01:17:06.244 Fiera spends 30 . 01:17:06.244 Fiera gains Exploitive Strikes. 01:17:06.246 Fiera loses Recklessness. 01:17:06.247 Fiera's Wither critically hits Jedi Tactician for 1364* kinetic damage, causing 4092 threat! 01:17:06.417 Jedi Tactician's Merciless Slash hits Fiera for 1253 energy damage, causing 1253 threat. 01:17:06.471 Fiera's Wither critically hits Jedi Tactician for 1413* kinetic damage, causing 4240 threat! 01:17:06.651 Fiera gains 2 . Another sample: 04:13:48.858 Fiera activates Recklessness. 04:13:48.858 Fiera gains Recklessness. 04:13:48.941 Fiera parries Gormak Armored Scout's Melee Attack, causing 1 threat. 04:13:49.035 Fiera:Ashara Zavros's Charge effect of Immobilized fades from Gormak Hunter. 04:13:49.152 Gormak Hunter's Retractable Blade adds effect Bleeding (Physical) to Fiera:Ashara Zavros. 04:13:49.155 Gormak Stampeder's Melee Attack glances Fiera for 209 kinetic damage, causing 209 threat. 04:13:49.171 Gormak Armored Scout's Melee Attack glances Fiera for 94 kinetic damage, causing 94 threat. 04:13:49.519 Fiera:Ashara Zavros deflects Gormak Hunter's Ranged Attack, causing 1 threat. 04:13:49.544 Gormak Hunter's Ranged Attack hits Fiera:Ashara Zavros for 232 energy damage, causing 232 threat. 04:13:49.571 Fiera activates Wither. 04:13:49.571 Fiera spends 30 . 04:13:49.571 Fiera's Wither adds effect Wither (Force) to Gormak Armored Scout. 04:13:49.572 Fiera's Wither adds effect Slowed (Force) to Gormak Armored Scout. 04:13:49.572 Fiera gains Healing Resonance. 04:13:49.574 Fiera's Healing Resonance heals Fiera for 111, causing 111 threat. 04:13:49.574 Fiera's Dark Charge heals Fiera for 228, causing 228 threat. 04:13:49.575 Fiera's Dark Charge hits Gormak Armored Scout for 138 internal damage, causing 276 threat. 04:13:49.576 Fiera's Wither adds effect Wither (Force) to Gormak Stampeder. 04:13:49.576 Fiera's Wither adds effect Slowed (Force) to Gormak Stampeder. 04:13:49.577 Fiera's Wither adds effect Wither (Force) to Gormak Stampeder. 04:13:49.577 Fiera's Wither adds effect Slowed (Force) to Gormak Stampeder. 04:13:49.578 Fiera loses Recklessness. 04:13:49.579 Fiera's Wither critically hits Gormak Stampeder for 1521* kinetic damage, causing 4563 threat! 04:13:49.579 Fiera's Wither critically hits Gormak Stampeder for 1410* kinetic damage, causing 4232 threat! Links to those two logs: Sample #1: http://www.torparse.com/l/19733 Sample #2: http://www.torparse.com/l/19732 Edited September 10, 2012 by CharlieBrown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dencre Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Wither didnt use to take all charges but they snuck it in with a stealth patch. For each person it hits it will eat a charge. Death Field also eats one charge per person hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grallmate Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 As far as I'm aware (and I could be wrong). Recklessness charges are used even if the ability doesn't crit. It is only your next 2 force abilities that have +60% crit. If you fail to crit with both, you lose both charges. For the log above, your Dark Charge heal procced on the Wither. Its possible that this proc used your second charge of Recklessness instead of Wither eating them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InariOkami Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 I'd appreciate some feedback on the original topic please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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