anwg Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I can never fit another attack between charge and deadly throw, the root always drops off before the GCD is over. However usually I can fit in something between deadly throw and ravage. Does anyone else have the same experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerain Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 what? Charge root should last 3 seconds... GCD is 1.5 seconds... And you shouldn't be opening with charge anyways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 I know what you are saying, but practicing on the dummy the root from charge always falls off first, leaving a 0.5-1 second gap, maybe it's animation delay of deadly throw. And sometimes you have to charge, like in Hutball the carrier is one level above. I'm not going to walk up to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I know what you are saying, but practicing on the dummy the root from charge always falls off first, leaving a 0.5-1 second gap, maybe it's animation delay of deadly throw. And sometimes you have to charge, like in Hutball the carrier is one level above. I'm not going to walk up to him. Yes, there are always going to be times where you need to use charge; Xerain was being very closed-minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerain Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yes, there are always going to be times where you need to use charge; Xerain was being very closed-minded. No no I wasn't. I was telling him not to open with charge if he doesn't have to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omophorus Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 No no I wasn't. I was telling him not to open with charge if he doesn't have to... For PVP... completely agree. For many PVE situations... no reason not to. But then again, I'm not a big fan of Carnage in PVE, so it's hardly relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwg Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 No no I wasn't. I was telling him not to open with charge if he doesn't have to... Well, not sure what that has to do with chain rooting. After further testing on the dummy, it seems the debuffs from deadly throw is only applied when the saber hits the dummy, not when I pressed the button, that's the reason for the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnedRemains Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 No no I wasn't. I was telling him not to open with charge if he doesn't have to... What? You can't be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerain Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What? You can't be serious. Ok go open on a sorc with charge and get knocked back then QQ when he runs away and DOT's you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varicite Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What? You can't be serious. Why can't he be serious? ...he's absolutely correct. Force Leap should be the last resort for an opener in almost every case. /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Ok go open on a sorc with charge and get knocked back then QQ when he runs away and DOT's you up. lol, this is what I am referring to. This is so subjective; the situation differs every time. The sorc could have low health, and they have a delay on their knockback, so you can circle them to be knocked in a favourable direction, accompanied by a root to keep them in place. I just don't agree with such black and white thinking, nor advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exilim Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Just leap to them, you likely have 4 or 5 other people that can leap to them as well and keep them any focus target from moving at all. Someone probably has a stun or a choke etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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