hatsjoe Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I myself am on tomb of freedom nadd and i'm currently waiting in a +2000 queue. But increasing the caps and lowering the queues would be a bad thing. What would stop another 2000 people rolling on launch on this server otherwise? It's all for the greater good ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigabytes Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The reason is poor planning, possible inbreeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erelenko Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The reason is poor planning, possible inbreeding. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlownSi Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The two posters before me who are claiming poor planning have obviously never played an MMO at launch. Let's not even talk about the que times in WOW during launch. Yes, some servers do have ridiculously long ques, but most are tolerable. I am sure that the population caps on the servers will be raised by small increments over the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adficio Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) people need to realize if we're having problems with queues now in early access wait and see how bad it is within the first week of release..1 hour will jump to 3 easy.. Edited December 18, 2011 by Adficio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragshunter Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 the reason is free will, all EA users had been asigned to a servers where there whould have been little to none queue time but people ignored BW and decided themself what server they would play on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigabytes Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The two posters before me who are claiming poor planning have obviously never played an MMO at launch. Let's not even talk about the que times in WOW during launch. Yes, some servers do have ridiculously long ques, but most are tolerable. I am sure that the population caps on the servers will be raised by small increments over the next few weeks. The second part of my statement applies to people like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaskos Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I actually only want t play with my guild... is that so much to ask for. They (Bioware) choose a server for us - and now i have to wait over 2 hours to get in to actually play the game (that 2hr+ Estimated wait time is a very poor estimate. Its closer to 5hrs. FACT) I just want to play really.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adficio Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I actually only want t play with my guild... is that so much to ask for. They (Bioware) choose a server for us - and now i have to wait over 2 hours to get in to actually play the game (that 2hr+ Estimated wait time is a very poor estimate. Its closer to 5hrs. FACT) I just want to play really.... agreed, i;m waiting to get back onto the red eclipse now after a dc - joined at 12:10 it is now 13:21 queue estimate 55 minutes.. still 397 places to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psysention Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 people need to realize if we're having problems with queues now in early access wait and see how bad it is within the first week of release.. 1 hour will jump to 3 easy.. what 1 hour are you talking about? freedon nadd has over 5hr que Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araxan Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The two posters before me who are claiming poor planning have obviously never played an MMO at launch. Let's not even talk about the que times in WOW during launch. Yes, some servers do have ridiculously long ques, but most are tolerable. I am sure that the population caps on the servers will be raised by small increments over the next few weeks. I I wish people would stop comparing this to an 8 year old release. Such a ridiculous comparison. Maybe we should go back to buying music at the store on DVD too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adficio Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 what 1 hour are you talking about? freedon nadd has over 5hr que i was just talking about my experience, i;m on The Red Eclipse - but yes i feel for them and bloodworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigabytes Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I canceled my preorder cause I am not interested in paying to play crap, but you know where bioware became biofail? They assign entire guilds to servers and these guilds can't even fracking play together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochlin Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Seems everyone and their brother knows how to better manage servers and MMO launches. Why are all these qualified people not already employed at Bioware? My guess is because they don't know nearly as much as they think. Maybe they do. If thats the case maybe they can open up their own game, since apparently their intelligence knows no bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragshunter Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I canceled my preorder cause I am not interested in paying to play crap, but you know where bioware became biofail? They assign entire guilds to servers and these guilds can't even fracking play together. can i have your stuff ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedgyth Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) I myself am on tomb of freedom nadd and i'm currently waiting in a +2000 queue. But increasing the caps and lowering the queues would be a bad thing. What would stop another 2000 people rolling on launch on this server otherwise? It's all for the greater good ^^ One thing that may stop them is if the estimate queue time was not just pie in the sky. I have never joined the queue and not exceeded the queue time by x2 - x3 times. You see 1-2 hours queue and think, hmm ok queue and grab something to eat, watch a show and i'll be in.... sadly you won't be. If the queue told you the truth i.e. 5hrs + more people will just say, sod it, i'll roll on another server. They could also stop new char creation on the server for people not in already allocated guilds. Or how about a mediterranean server and offer to the Southern European guilds/players who want to avoid the queues ? Edited December 18, 2011 by Aedgyth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OorahDoc Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 people need to realize if we're having problems with queues now in early access wait and see how bad it is within the first week of release.. 1 hour will jump to 3 easy.. Ehh, that logic could be used in another way. On Dec. 22nd people have to actually buy the game and register it and start paying their monthly. All the pissy moaners could just say peace out! And go back to the game they were playing. That was my plan if i didn't enjoy it. By the first patch i'm sure they are going to release new servers and implement a server Xfer option. About the OP, finally someone who understands. If BW had aimed high on the number of servers/quality of servers they used for launch, they would have been out millions of dollars. And who would be paying for it? The players. Don't think that BW doesn't care about their consumers, its how they're going to make their money. They have every reason to care about our gaming experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekadez Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The reason queues suck is when the estimated time is nowhere near the realistic waiting time. 1h10m estimate, 3h realistic and only halfway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OorahDoc Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 The reason queues suck is when the estimated time is nowhere near the realistic waiting time. 1h10m estimate, 3h realistic and only halfway. Bioware is somehow supposed to predict when people log off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginerc Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 If this keeps up I fear SWTOR is gonna be dead before it launches. They have my five bucks for the preorder and I was planning on picking up my CE on Tuesday but unless I see a marked improvement I don't think I am going to bother. Prolly just get the standard if I buy the game at all. Blizzard has made some major mistakes but I never had to wait 3 hours to play World of Warcraft.. Oh and @ your blog post. All of our servers are freakishly overpopulated is NOT an insight. This is not a free to play game, when we pay for a product we expect you to deliver and if you can't we will move on to a company that can.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emartell Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Guild deployment and only releasing a small number of servers the first day really screwed the pooch. Everyone knows that the first servers open are the highest pop ones throughout the first weeks. But let's force people to have to be on said server because we intentionally put their guild there. That's genius My server generally has a 10-20 minute queue. Which is fine with me. I like that the starter areas aren't insane. I have yet to battle someone for a quest clicky etc. but if I was on that server because BW put me there. I'd be pissed. They had good ideas. But the combination of those good ideas didn't make a smart idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OorahDoc Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Blizzard has made some major mistakes but I never had to wait 3 hours to play World of Warcraft.. You also never played WoW at launch. People were saying the same stuff then. Imagine 25-30 total servers for hundreds of thousands of people on 2004 equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginerc Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/599/swjoke.jpg BioWare sure has an odd, self defeating sense of humor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginerc Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 You also never played WoW at launch. People were saying the same stuff then. Imagine 25-30 total servers for hundreds of thousands of people on 2004 equipment. Played thru the beta and launch of WoW. We didn't have these issues on my server.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streak Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 If this keeps up I fear SWTOR is gonna be dead before it launches. They have my five bucks for the preorder and I was planning on picking up my CE on Tuesday but unless I see a marked improvement I don't think I am going to bother. Prolly just get the standard if I buy the game at all. Blizzard has made some major mistakes but I never had to wait 3 hours to play World of Warcraft.. Oh and @ your blog post. All of our servers are freakishly overpopulated is NOT an insight. This is not a free to play game, when we pay for a product we expect you to deliver and if you can't we will move on to a company that can.. I did on Illidan, also loot lagged for hour straight during launch as well for hour's straight seems people also forgot about that back in vannilia launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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