Henu Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 You know what i agree, why does everybody hate the prequels? would you rather have six movies of luke skywalker sucking? or see obi-wan and yoda in action?? the prequels are the best ones they hav better graphics storylines and sound-effects. Graphics have nothing to do with it, story line NO.. and your luke comment is not valid. The 3 prequels are over done, its too much shoved into a movie, heaps of pointless crap, stupid comic relief, bad dialog, bad acting and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Omega Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 You know what i agree, why does everybody hate the prequels? would you rather have six movies of luke skywalker sucking? or see obi-wan and yoda in action?? the prequels are the best ones they hav better graphics storylines and sound-effects. It might just be because of the way the movies were released. The prequels would have been so much better it we were not aware of everything that was going to happen. We knew that Palpatine was Sidious, Anakin was going to become Vader, Padme and Anakin would become romantically involved, and that all the Jedi were going to die and the Republic would become the Empire. Nothing was a surprise in those movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscad Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 It's just a YT-1300 stock light freighter. That fits with the time period. *shrug* Maybe, but it is Lucas we are talking about, also a young Han Solo got cut from Episode 3 so I am pretty sure this means it is the Falcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henu Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 It might just be because of the way the movies were released. The prequels would have been so much better it we were not aware of everything that was going to happen. We knew that Palpatine was Sidious, Anakin was going to become Vader, Padme and Anakin would become romantically involved, and that all the Jedi were going to die and the Republic would become the Empire. Nothing was a surprise in those movies. Um wrong. i was suprised that 4 Jedi master could go up against 1 sith and 3 be killed in 5 seconds.. im mean really, they didnt even put up a fight.. who wrote that script? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 You know what i agree, why does everybody hate the prequels? would you rather have six movies of luke skywalker sucking? or see obi-wan and yoda in action?? the prequels are the best ones they hav better graphics storylines and sound-effects. Duels: PT>OT Characters: Luke>Anakin, Leia>Padme, OT>PT Story: OT>PT Dialogue: OT>PT Special Effects: PT>OT OT wins. 3 - 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscad Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Um wrong. i was suprised that 4 Jedi master could go up against 1 sith and 3 be killed in 5 seconds.. im mean really, they didnt even put up a fight.. who wrote that script? Sidious was moving so fast that his lightsaber was a red flash and all that could be seen. The book did a better job with this scene. Edited May 22, 2012 by Tuscad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Um wrong. i was suprised that 4 Jedi master could go up against 1 sith and 3 be killed in 5 seconds.. im mean really, they didnt even put up a fight.. who wrote that script? That would be the bash target himself who wrote that script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henu Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Sidious was moving so fast that his lightsaber was a red flash and all that could be seen. The book did a better job with this scene. i agree the book did as books do but the movie scene was just bad.. even a youngling would of held his saber upright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Sidious was moving so fast that his lightsaber was a red flash and all that could be seen. The book did a better job with this scene. Very true. In fact, reading the novelizations was about the only way I could actually appreciate the story. OT story was still better, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscad Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 i agree the book did as books do but the movie scene was just bad.. even a youngling would of held his saber upright. I wish more effort had been put into that scene, it could have been epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDeanOU Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Duels: PT>OT Characters: Luke>Anakin, Leia>Padme, OT>PT Story: OT>PT Dialogue: OT>PT Special Effects: PT>OT OT wins. 3 - 2. I would argue that the duels were better in the OT because I actually cared what happened. Yes, the duels in the PT were flashier, but they were also boring because they didn't involve characters that we loved. They were better from an action standpoint but inferior as entertainment because we weren't engaged with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDeanOU Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Very true. In fact, reading the novelizations was about the only way I could actually appreciate the story. OT story was still better, imo. I wonder how the screenplay read for those characters? Were they told, "Just stand still and let him stab you"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I wonder how the screenplay read for those characters? Were they told, "Just stand still and let him stab you"? That scene just screamed out "CHEAP" considering what the technology, even back then, could do to enhance visual effects. But instead of having a CG Palpatine actually move at the speed he was supposed to move, they used Ian McDiarmid, and he's NOT as quick as he needed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crito Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Lucas has become a man who's ego is far larger than his actual talent. His biggest mistake was to start to believe all the people calling him a genius. I can't help thinking of the similarity between Star Wars and Marvel. Before the prequels and before the Marvel Studios movies, both were in a position of owning the rights to some very well loved characters with a large fan bases. What Lucas should have done with the prequels was take a similar approach to that of Marvel Studios. Hire talented screenwriters, directors, actors etc and simply oversee the whole project. The result of Marvel's approach to film making has been some of the most enjoyable and successful films of the last few years. The result of Lucas's autocratic approach was some of the most disappointing movies of resent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Lucas has become a man who's ego is far larger than his actual talent. His biggest mistake was to start to believe all the people calling him a genius. I can't help thinking of the similarity between Star Wars and Marvel. Before the prequels and before the Marvel Studios movies, both were in a position of owning the rights to some very well loved characters with a large fan bases. What Lucas should have done with the prequels was take a similar approach to that of Marvel Studios. Hire talented screenwriters, directors, actors etc and simply oversee the whole project. The result of Marvel's approach to film making has been some of the most enjoyable and successful films of the last few years. The result of Lucas's autocratic approach was some of the most disappointing movies of resent years. To play Devil's Advocate for a moment, George DESERVED being called a genius after A New Hope. Ok, now that's out of the way... Otherwise, I agree. He never could write dialogue to save his life. He is, however, an excellent Grand Scope storyteller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dprijadi Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 O K , Enough of this debate.. which top 3 grossing Starwars movie ? ianyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeC Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Top movies IMHO 1) tESB 2) RotJ 3) aNH 4) RotS 5) AotC 6) tPM Best saber duels 1) Luke v Vader in cloud city 2) Luke V Vader on Death star 2 before I continue, these are emotionally driven with tons of symbolism that engages the audience in the story. Luke's descent into Hell to fight Satan (vader) in tESB is very palpable. The scene is dark with red lighting (looking like lava) as well as steam shooting from certain places. You get the feeling Luke is biting off more than he can chew and vader is amused and toying with him before the great reveal! And later on the deathstar Luke is not just fighting to defeat vader and the emperor. he is there to save both his and his father's soul as well as protect his newly discovered sister. The entire scene is engulfed in darkness. Luke is quite literally facing the dark side. He is surrounded and part of it as he tries to keep from falling to the darkside. There is just so much more going on in these duels that the others. You may argue that the Kenobi v Vader in Ep 3 had a lot going on too and it had more going for it than the other PT duels it was still extremely long and contrived. It became just another pointless action scene. 3) Kenobi v Vader Ep3 tied with Kenobi and Anakin v Dooku 4) Qui Gon and Kenobi v Maul 5) Yoda v Sidious 6) Yoda v Dooku 7) Kenobi v Vader on the Deathstar At the time of filming aNH Lucas believed that lightsabers were so heavy that only jedi's could be able to lift them which is why the Kenobi v Deathstar duel was extremley basic. Then when tESB came along he changed his mind and it became more like dueling samurais. The Yoda v Dooku duel really disappointed me. We saw in tESB that Yoda uses the force and seem almost like he detested using a lightsaber as the force is his ally and not the "crude matter" of muscle. This duel turned that upside down and instead of seeing an immense force battle we get another lightsaber duel. It would have been great to see Yoda use his abilities with the force to curb stomp a lightsaber enthusiest. Dooku then limbing away to escape. The Yoda vs Sidious had more force powers going on. Sure they took out a lightsaber and duel a little bit but it was more of a force duel. Throwing stuff, pushing, lightning. This seems more like Yoda's arena. The Yoda duels could have been more amazing, showing things that can be done with the force that we have never seen before but instead it was the same rehashed abilities we are already familiar with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prenavo Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I don't care that Lucas is a mediocre director. I don't care that a lot of decisions concerning the movies are a bit on the odd side of things...(Ewoks...Gungans). The fact of the matter is we would not have this glorious universe to immerse ourselves in, to pass the enjoyment of the movies to others, or to even build upon in our own way via games, books and toys if it were not for Mr. Lucas. It just wouldn't be here. The guy is responsible what is arguably this centuries greatest iconic film series. Lets also not forget, that he was one of the first ones to market merchandise based on a movie. Greed move from Mr. Lucas? Maybe, but hey, Part of who I am today is because of the enjoyment I had as a kid playing with all of those cool toys, and it is a legacy I'm proud to have passed on to my little boy as he is now a Star Wars fan and a big Star Wars toy collector. It's something that binds us together as father and son and gives us common ground. That is something I can say is due to George Lucas. I love the guy, and before anyone bashes him, maybe they should think about a world without Star Wars in it...how odd that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Im always amazed when people actually defend lucas. The prequels are horrible rots is no where near as good as the ot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkerus Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 GL ruined his own fanchise. He's an idiot. The prequels are trash. Commence with the bashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malrus Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Im always amazed when people actually defend lucas. The prequels are horrible rots is no where near as good as the ot I'm always amazed that people feel the need to bash Lucas, what, do you think if you cry loud enough maybe he will change the prequels and maybe give you a dummy why he is at it? Honestly all of you who complain about it need to stop and think, for christs sake, "oh we were so emotionally invested in these characters and then he does this to us" get a grip on yourselves. Maybe if you pull your heads out of the star wars universe and into the real one you might realise there are better things to do than complain about some movies that were made over half a decade ago. Edited May 22, 2012 by Malrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I'm always amazed that people feel the need to bash Lucas, what, do you think if you cry loud enough maybe he will change the prequels and maybe give you a dummy why he is at it? Honestly all of you who complain about it need to stop and think. For christs sake, "oh we were so emotionally invested in these characters and then he does this to us" get a grip on yourselves. Maybe if you pull your heads out of the star wars universe and into the real one you might realise there are better things to do than complain about some movies that were made over half a decade ago. Or maybe.... JUST MAYBE.... it was the garbage directing and dialogue that made us cringe in our seats because it was freakin' CRAP! Ever think about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmthethird Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 i didn't hate PT and i actually liked episode 3 alot. however lucas's attitude at the criticism he got, the childish manner he says hes not making anymore films, and when he dies there will be no more films and its all the starwars fans fault. sorry i'm not suddenly going to forget that /grumbles "and don't even get me started on the boba fett saga" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dprijadi Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Box Office History for Star Wars Movies Click on column header to sort Released Movie Name 1st Weekend. US Gross Worldwide Gross. Budget*** 5/25/1977 Star Wars Ep. IV: ANH. $1,554,475 $460,998,007 $797,900,000 $11,000,000 5/21/1980 Star Wars Ep. V: TESB. $4,910,483 $290,271,960 $534,171,960 $23,000,000 5/25/1983 Star Wars Ep. VI: ROTJ. $23,019,618 $309,205,079 $572,700,000 $32,500,000 5/19/1999 Star Wars Ep. I: TPM. $64,810,970 $474,363,310 $1,006,863,310 $115,000,000 5/16/2002 Star Wars Ep. II: AoTC. $80,027,814 $310,676,740 $656,695,615 $115,000,000 11/1/2002 Star Wars: AoTC (IMAX) $1,441,922 $8,494,458 - - 5/19/2005 Star Wars Ep. III: RotS. $108,435,841 $380,270,577 $848,998,877 $115,000,000 8/15/2008 Star Wars: The Clone Wars. $14,611,273 $35,161,554 $68,161,554 $8,500,000 [/Code] according to the money track here, its EP1 that bring the most $$$$[code] http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/StarWars.php Edited May 22, 2012 by dprijadi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanshan Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 1. The Empire Strikes Back 2. Revenge of the Sith 3. Return of the Jedi 4. A New Hope 5. Attack of the Clones 6. The Phantom Menace Are you 12 or something or just have very bad taste in films to think Revenge of the Sith was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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