Orila Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I heard they are using the Hero Engine. TOR uses an unfinished modified Alpha version of the Hero Engine. What they are using will be better than what we have. Well.better then what we have can still be garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscad Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Well.better then what we have can still be garbage. True that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imadian Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I trust Bioware....but EA is the destroyer of games....I do not and will not trust EA with any product ever again. ^this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlacidDragon Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I trust Bioware....but EA is the destroyer of games....I do not and will not trust EA with any product ever again. But Bioware is no longer "Bioware", they were bought by EA and are now just a name that EA is using for all its worth to cash in on.. pretty much like Westwood for people who remember that company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLeee Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I rally can't trust BioWare again. I will not pre-order anything from them anymore. I cannot trust BioWare as long as they are with EA. DragonAge 2..... fool me once. Star Wars The Old Republic.... loved it at the start! But after these last 2 months..... fool me twice! Mass Effect 3 and the last GD 10mins of it! Fool me THRICE!!! And no more. The only gaming companies I have not lost faith in are CD Projekt RED and ArenaNet. BioWare was my number one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turjake Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I heard they are using the Hero Engine. TOR uses an unfinished modified Alpha version of the Hero Engine. What they are using will be better than what we have. Bioware has also been modifying/rebuilding the engine for 3+ years now, so can you really call it hero engine or their own engine that is based on some early version of hero engine? I am sure Bethesda doesnt use the basic version of hero engine either without loads of modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inistis Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Ive been a BIOWARE customer for 12 years now. Love the company. Hate EA. So, I will trust BW when some of its core leave and start their own PRIVATELY owned company. EA is poison for MMO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denga Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 All I'm seeing when I read the hater posts is impatient whingers, give it a rest - Rome wasn't built in a day... and neither was WoW for that matter. If you're that bothered please go and play something else and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrankiller Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Did you see in the 1.3 video how they showed off the "heavy" and "standard" server populations rofl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeramieCrowe Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) Did you see in the 1.3 video how they showed off the "heavy" and "standard" server populations rofl. Yep, was that way just a month ago during the Rakghoul Event. Pretty sure that's when the deadline was for shots before editing. I doubt it's some nefarious plot. Edited May 23, 2012 by JeramieCrowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadivus Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Bioware will always remain in my gaming heart.They are the best and could have become just as great or even the best entertainment company in the gaming history.EA? F*ck them and all their future products.Even if God steps down from the heavens to develop a game i and everyone i can convince will not buy another EA published game.Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrankiller Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Bioware will always remain in my gaming heart.They are the best and could have become just as great or even the best entertainment company in the gaming history.EA? F*ck them and all their future products.Even if God steps down from the heavens to develop a game i and everyone i can convince will not buy another EA published game.Period. Yeah, EA is killing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delease Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) BW yes but EA no. They have become the bane of gaming. Rockstar has taking over though. Edited May 23, 2012 by Delease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabloDoom Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Bioware will always remain in my gaming heart.They are the best and could have become just as great or even the best entertainment company in the gaming history.EA? F*ck them and all their future products.Even if God steps down from the heavens to develop a game i and everyone i can convince will not buy another EA published game.Period. You won't buy another game from EA, but you will continue to buy subscriptions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha-Llama Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) BioWare lost my trust with Dragon Age 2. that game was an abortion and obvious rushed cash-in. Ruined the entire series. there's a lot wrong with SWTOR but, imo, still worth playing. I have yet to play ME3 but, again, after DA2 I will NEVER blindly buy a BioWare game again. 200% agree with this person's opinion i would also say about half of my guild have left to play tera Im staying right now because i love star wars and i live in hope this game can get better with time..but im weary Edited May 23, 2012 by Alpha-Llama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alavastre Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 All I'm seeing when I read the hater posts is impatient whingers, give it a rest - Rome wasn't built in a day... and neither was WoW for that matter. If you're that bothered please go and play something else and don't let the door hit you on the way out. This is the most brilliant post of the week, until you're the last one left and then their won't be any more whiners or complainers. Or, you can look at the criticism and realize there are problems, and the way your customers feel is legit and work from there. I'm sure either model is just as profitable as the other. I also hope you can sense the thick sarcasm I'm using. The innerwebz tends to mask sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ravenhurst Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Let Dr. Cox answer your question : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karabal Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Hardly. If WoW has proven anything, it's that PvPers are a minority. I know you refuse to believe this (most PvPers do), but "real" PvPers do not play MMOs, they play FPS and RPG games where things are equal. The only people interested in MMO PvP are those looking to exploit gear and class imbalances that are inherent in all MMOs.. LOL? Got some facts and figures there chief? WoW has proven? I'd like to see that proof. I love PvP for me PvP is endgame in swtor. I PvP because I enjoy the competition wether its CoD, Halo, BF, SwToR, WoW, EvE in fact anything that is a challenge against people as opposed to machines is my idea of gaming. So am I not a "Real" pvper? What you wrote there is a complete pile of garbage and the way you worded it... its as if its fact. Also SWTOR is a RPG its a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing game. So to quote you. "real" PvPers do not play MMOs, they play FPS and RPG games" Really really dumb post there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkais Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) Problem ismost people did not expect a WoW clone, infact the thought was at one time, almost insulting. Man, those people must have been trying pretty hard to ignore the previews. SWTOR will never cease to be a wow clone, but there is a possibility that it can grow as big as wow.. Edited May 25, 2012 by Karkais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoomazir Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 "Will You Trust Bioware Again?" I lost all faith since I saw what horrors were ME2 & DA2, and I don't expect Bioware to regain their former aura ever again. But I will be checking their games, either rented, second-handed or price dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaramCaldar Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I would trust them again but I will likely give any MMO they release a long wait before I buy next time. SW:TOR is at the 6 month point and is showing signs that, like many other MMO's before it, it won't really be a 'complete' game for about a year after launch. It's ironic that so many MMO's launch missing key features that they know people will ask for then the developers act surprised that they get backlash. It's not rocket science. TOR is a decent game. Unfortunately it launched without several key features and then took far too long (closing on 6 months now) to implement them after launch. I wound up stopping playing around a month ago and still have 23 days play time left today. It's sad, honestly, because I really was hoping TOR would be my end game but I wound up going back to Lord of the Rings Online because so many key features are still missing in this game. So far it looks like in another 6 months or so SW:TOR will actually be a somewhat finished MMO with the key features it should have had at launch. I'll probably take another look at it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I didn't ever stop trusting Bioware. SW:TOR has its faults but so does every other game and I judge games based on if I have fun playing them or not, and I most certainly have fun with SW:TOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafaman Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Lol! Will I trust BW again? Of course I will. Some of you act like there are hundreds for choices and devs teams that put out games of a high caliber. Quite simply, there is not. You don't like TOR, OK. Move on. But to use TOR as the excuse to permanently remove BW from your gaming choices is short sighted and I would argue untenable. Your choices are what then... Blizzard and... Bethesda? LOL! Top tier game houses aren't a dime a dozen. You may not think so now but you will be eyeing BWs next big release. And btw, I just don't understand all the hate and vitriol. Got it, you didn't like the game. You have your reasons A-Z. But some of you are going out of your way to make sure we know it and seemingly taking things personally; attacking BW as if they just stole your MMO mouse. Seriously, the jihad against BW is unnecessary. Do you need validation of the reasons why you are leaving? Why? It is very strange. But I guess there is always someone else to hate isn't there. Next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchy Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Why would anyone not 'trust' them again? You shell out circa £50 to buy and try a game. The risk is its crap .. boo hoo I lost my £50, ah well thats only the cost of a quiet night out The reward is its a great game and you get years of entertainment from it at the cost per month of 3 beers. If I had bought SWTOR ,downloaded it, clicked PLAY and my computer went BANG caught fire and burned my house down... Then yeah I probably would'nt trust EA/BW again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlacke Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Of course i will trust them again, they make excellent games more often than not and besides in my opinion SWTOR is a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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