llesna Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) Dear all, As you can see in this picture here, the current plan for the upcoming legacy unlocks with the 1.3 patch is for them to be character specific, rather than legacy wide. This will mean that for the upcoming advancement, companion, convenience or travel updates, you'll have to pay for them on every single one of your characters. Going on current legacy pricing, that's not going to be cheap. Given that these are going to be expensive as heck anyway, I am kindly ask the devs to think wisely about this and realise that it will just become a grind fest for everyone with more than a few characters and will probably just end up with players having to funnel cash from higher level alts to unlock these on new ones. So please, support me in making these upcoming unlocks legacy wide. Kind regards llesna P.S. Please also see this thread for other legacy suggestions and requests. P.P.S. As my question about the upcoming changes was answered by Bioware, I have started a new thread to ask for the choice to unlock such features individually or legacy wide. Edited May 29, 2012 by llesna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjinhawkes Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I completely agree. Unless they are going to unlock across the entire Legacy, they should either be reduced in price or moved from the Legacy completely to a new system. Otherwise, what is the point of having a Legacy system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llesna Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 I completely agree. Unless they are going to unlock across the entire Legacy, they should either be reduced in price or moved from the Legacy completely to a new system. Otherwise, what is the point of having a Legacy system. Thank you for your support there. I completely agree with your points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jandi Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I have 8 characters, 5 of them 50 (already deleted one lvl50 char to make room). Do they really expect anyone to dole out credits for all characters? I could *maybe* buy some for my main but the rest? Yeah, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnusheart Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Agreed. If I have to spend like 500k on a perk, it better be available to my alts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispotter Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 /support This really needs to be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavon_Wrentaile Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Agreed. The credit crunch is already huge as is. BioWare, this needs to be as suggested, for the health of the game. End game grinding will not make players keep coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I must agree, Bioware have promoted the concept of the Legacy system as being a server wide system for your "family" of characters. Making any aspect of legacy unlocks only for a single chatacter goes completely against the whole concept of Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusRex Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Unless the Cost is nothing these should be legacy wide unlocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llesna Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Thank you all for your support there! Let's just hope that the devs are reading these forums with open minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelAnne Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I disagree, its the same discussion that happened at wow so often. Chars should never be linked, so that 1 char finished means all chars finished. If you want to reach something with a new char, then you must do it from scratch.Everything else is kinda silly, people would stop playing after 1 char then and scream even louder "where is content" then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llesna Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 I disagree, its the same discussion that happened at wow so often. Chars should never be linked, so that 1 char finished means all chars finished. If you want to reach something with a new char, then you must do it from scratch. Everything else is kinda silly, people would stop playing after 1 char then and scream even louder "where is content" then. If it's meant to be character specific, then why is it under the legacy umbrella? The whole point of legacy is that you get cumulative awards from playing on multiple alts and accumulating a high legacy level. The point is not to have to grind any more individually on specific characters. If the unlocks are character specific, then why are the other unlocks legacy wide? The decision to make them character specific cries injustice and grind and doesn't fit into the whole ethos of having a legacy, which is to get bonuses for all your legacy characters. If you're going to have character specific unlocks, then those shouldn't be legacy related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroPlus Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Agreed. Legacy unlocks should affect all characters in the Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llesna Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Agreed. Legacy unlocks should affect all characters in the Legacy. Thankee kindly sai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletBlaze Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 There is a way this could work if bioware implements it correctly. If they want the unlocks to be character specific then make it based on a legacy level thereby removing the cost if you reach the legacy level In other words: If you reach a legacy level that specific item is unlocked without the cost or: If you don't want to wait for the legacy level then you can purchase it with credits but not both Either one or the other. And that is on all the unlocks not just specific ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llesna Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 There is a way this could work if bioware implements it correctly. If they want the unlocks to be character specific then make it based on a legacy level thereby removing the cost if you reach the legacy level In other words: If you reach a legacy level that specific item is unlocked without the cost or: If you don't want to wait for the legacy level then you can purchase it with credits but not both Either one or the other. And that is on all the unlocks not just specific ones I like the idea of either/or, rather than cash and legacy level. I still do wish that the devs would rethink the idea of any legacy-related specific character bonuses and make them legacy-wide, but I could live with linked characters being able to unlock options just by the legacy, though it wouldn't really be character specific any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llesna Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 I am very much hoping that someone will see my thread and think about the silliness of character specific legacy unlocks. I'm sure you do not see this as a priority devs, but considering this is a feature promised for 1.3, I'd like to see this issue resolved as soon as possible before the update hits and before you cause a lot of player aggro. At present, most players simply do not realise that the upcoming unlocks are going to be character specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llesna Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 I am very much hoping that this issue is raised with the devs before 1.3 goes live or even to the PTS. It would be a shame if such useful features were to be marred by being character specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadsPeterJ Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Please stop spamming your own thread. And it is also a completly useless thing to discuss, if the things you buy are for all characters they are just going to cost that much more and you won't save any money, if they are for character only they will be cheaper and those of us without 6 level 50 characters will be happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llesna Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 Please stop spamming your own thread. And it is also a completly useless thing to discuss, if the things you buy are for all characters they are just going to cost that much more and you won't save any money, if they are for character only they will be cheaper and those of us without 6 level 50 characters will be happier. Check the times and dates between my posts and you'll see that I've not been spamming my own thread by any stretch of the word. I'm just keen to keep this little-known issue in the public eye, as most people will wrongly assume that the upcoming unlocks are going to be account wide, since that makes logical sense. Also this is hardly a useless thing to discuss. Legacy unlocks should unlock legacy wide, not for single characters at a time. Keep in mind that if you do not have lots of characters, you will not have a high enough legacy level to get any benefit from these things, so you're complaining over nothing. The fact is that legacy benefits should affect ALL your characters as it's based on your legacy level, meaning that you've worked hard on other characters so that you get a benefit on a new one, especially when the number of character slots is increased beyond eight. In any case, I thank you for your post, however misguided it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithy Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 For XP gains, i don't midn char specific btu for sprint speed and crafting crit which are MUST HAVES...they need to be legacy wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RachelAnne Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 No thanks, current system is exactly how it should be. Please no wow 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseGrims Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 i agree, kinda stupid and goes against the point of the legacy system, if they are going to be character specific why not make them new types of datacrons. and since there is 5 of each type of exp boost make one of each availible every 10 lvls first being reachable from lvl 1 and the last somewhere lvl 40ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damask_Rose Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Darn, I didn't notice that the new unlocks weren't going to work the same as the ones we currently have. I was really looking forward to more legacy unlocks, but not if they are character only. I can't even afford most of the ones we already have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikHar Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 No thanks, current system is exactly how it should be. Please no wow 2.0. Wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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