olounda Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 So I play a maurader, and before 1.2 i was pretty decent, and could hold my own against battlemaster's (me being in centurion/champion), because they were just bad and farmed for their title. That isn't my issue. My issue now is i no longer can compete in warzones because of the huge gear gap from champion gear, and full bm gear. And to add insult to injury, you make it almost impossible for me to catch up to them unless my team wins the warzone. So is it just me, or did 1.2 break pvp a bit more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanisAquilus Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 1. Buy recruit gear. 2. Profit, you're now the most op class in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olounda Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 No idea what the other mauraders are specced. i'm annih and i dont feel op... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanisAquilus Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Its because you're using gear which was phased out of the game. Expertise is the important stat now. Edited April 21, 2012 by CanisAquilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuzz Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Sounds like you've been pvping at 50 for at least 2-3 weeks ( i imagine its more tho) so no reason at all why you don't have a few BM pieces by now, and if you even played a moderate amount of games you should have half to full BM. For all the parts you're missing, replace with recruit. Not really sure what your issue is ( oh, and they changed losing comms again so you get billions even if you lose AND you only need 1 medal). Edited April 21, 2012 by Phuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maticlandarr Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Buy recruit gear and roll with punches til you can get some BM in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olounda Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 i probably would be at BM now if i had kill traded on ilum, but i didnt. just did warzones and sitting at 58 valor. I guess i'll buy recruit and start wrecking face again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasphemerr Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 The gear gap is a lie. .... There is cake however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maticlandarr Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Fyi you dont need battlemaster rank to wear the gear now. Im valor 59 and im wearing mostly BM gear. Once you hit around 1k expertise your problems will be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 for the love of god. BUY RECRUIT GEAR im a getting really tired of people complaining about the gear gap after bioware made it so blatantly easy to get PvP gear and compete. 300k is not a lot of credits, especially now that rewards arent gimping people in warzones. even the devs in their stupid Q&A said that the gear gap people are complaining about is because theyre improperly geared for pvp now. in case you havent heard, EXPERTISE MATTERS MORE NOW! stack as much of it as you can and you will be able to compete. its not bloody rocket science......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasphemerr Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 So I play a maurader, and before 1.2 i was pretty decent, and could hold my own against battlemaster's (me being in centurion/champion), because they were just bad and farmed for their title. That isn't my issue. My issue now is i no longer can compete in warzones because of the huge gear gap from champion gear, and full bm gear. And to add insult to injury, you make it almost impossible for me to catch up to them unless my team wins the warzone. So is it just me, or did 1.2 break pvp a bit more? War zone rewards are now the same--if not better than pre 1.2 for winning.Expertise matters more than it did pre 1.2. Champion gear may have better stats, but those stats are irrelevant if you're rocking 600 expertise compared to 950ish recruit and almost 1200 BM. Buy recruit gear. You'll be capable. BM gear takes only a few days assuming you pvp for 2-4 hours a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaplemouton Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Recruit gear SUCK. You get expertise... fine. But you lack the basic stats that make expertise actually worth it. You don't do **** damage. And if you had 17% damage to **** damage it's still **** damage. Yes the gear gap between Recruit and BM is 3 times bigger then centurion was to BM. And back before 1.2 BM was the end game gear now Recruit vs War hero? Just forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasphemerr Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) It's math, dude. Buy recruit gear. It is better than Champion/Centurion. Edited April 21, 2012 by Blasphemerr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaplemouton Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) It's math, dude. Buy recruit gear. It is better than Champion/Centurion. Columni is better then Recruit gear. And by far. That's math for you. Edited April 21, 2012 by snaplemouton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmasterr Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Recruit gear SUCK. You get expertise... fine. But you lack the basic stats that make expertise actually worth it. You don't do **** damage. And if you had 17% damage to **** damage it's still **** damage. Yes the gear gap between Recruit and BM is 3 times bigger then centurion was to BM. And back before 1.2 BM was the end game gear now Recruit vs War hero? Just forget it. 5char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesaff Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 5char 5char. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetou Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Recruit gear SUCK. You get expertise... fine. But you lack the basic stats that make expertise actually worth it. You don't do **** damage. And if you had 17% damage to **** damage it's still **** damage. Yes the gear gap between Recruit and BM is 3 times bigger then centurion was to BM. And back before 1.2 BM was the end game gear now Recruit vs War hero? Just forget it. It's the damage reduction that matters most of all from Expertise. Yes, your DPS may be slightly lower than in Columi but you'll stay alive much, much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaplemouton Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 It's the damage reduction that matters most of all from Expertise. Yes, your DPS may be slightly lower than in Columi but you'll stay alive much, much longer. Slightly lower? Twice lower is more like it. 17% damage reduction is **** compared to having 100% more DPS. T_T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabaal Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) Gear gap is one of the reasons that Warhammer Online never stabilized in subs once the game had settled down and improved, not the only reason but one of the main ones why it continues to bleed the few remaining subscribers. TOR is already bleeding subscribers from the PvP segment for other reasons and this can only compound things. Cross server queues, proper open world objectives, merge servers and then a valor 60+ bracket should have been introduced to rectify things but sadly with the removal of valor requirements from gear that likely won't happen. It still should but it's hard to see it on the horizon with the direction Bioware are currently taking. I say this as someone who's two toons i play are both fully geared. I'd prefer to fight other geared people and i'd prefer the pvp population didn't dwindle any further. Edited April 21, 2012 by Kabaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unixbomber Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Slightly lower? Twice lower is more like it. 17% damage reduction is **** compared to having 100% more DPS. T_T http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56pVgyX3iqg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfVey Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 They just increased the comms gained from lost WZs, so even if you're losing it isn't going to be a big deal getting BM items. They aren't expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blloodbane Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 They just increased the comms gained from lost WZs, so even if you're losing it isn't going to be a big deal getting BM items. They aren't expensive. Heck some times I still pull down 80+ comms in a losing match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veyl Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The gear gap is a lie. .... There is cake however. Thank God for Cake. ... what do you mean THERE IS NO CAKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAMABLANCA Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Columni is better then Recruit gear. And by far. That's math for you. Were? i don't see the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMKSED Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The gear gap between Recruit/Cent/Champ to BM is even further than what it was when Cent/Champ to BM gear. GG Bioware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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