Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I lured you into this thread with an awesome title, now I can complain about what's really on my mind. 1.2 removes the valor 60 requirement from Battlemater gear? So,..are we finally at a place where a major production MMO has nil benefits to PvP rank? Does War Hero require 70??? I just gotta laugh. Bioware always talks about 'we have so much planned for the legacy system!' Will PvP level serve ANYthing at all? Or is it scrapped just like bioware's RvR zone? Edited March 26, 2012 by Mezira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hmm no responses... I know a lot of pvpers have already left, hell I unsubbed for a few weeks. But in addition to all the nerfs and changes to pvp gear,..I gotta wonder if they know we are all leaving for gw2 and are just carebearing this game down for nubs. That's fine, but I just want to say it really shows. I had fun while it lasted, oh well. Good try BW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) and rated warzones will serve the keep the small amount of premade guilds left happy with actual competition, and draw them out of the general warzone population creating a decent pvp experience for cearbears. I can go all on all day. It ends once I get trolled or something. Someone reply. Edited March 26, 2012 by Mezira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgonKara Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I really don't know, but I've got to say that the PvP in SWTOR is already carebear as it gets, so I'm not sure what you expect. It's fun, it's entertaining, but there is nothing even remotely hardcore about SWTOR's PvP. There is a good chance that Battlemaster means you either ground out Warzones mostly against your own faction or kill traded/exploited on Ilum. Removing Valor restrictions means almost nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Someone's here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgonKara Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Either you think it's fun or you don't, but let's not pretend that anything about PvP is hardcore. It's decent RPG PvP with some cool animation effects and instanced maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skillmare Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 are you new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) No. I played Warhammer for 2+ years. I guess I've grown to appreciate watching dev teams scratch their head when it comes to this stuff. You guys are right, I need to just let it go. Thanks. Edited March 26, 2012 by Mezira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skillmare Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 do you know who i am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 do you know who i am Captain Obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonated Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) so old gear has rank remove new gear added. hhmmm this sounds like wow. Edited March 26, 2012 by Carbonated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) so old gear has rank remove new gear added. hhmmm this sounds like wow. lolllllllllllllll. Edited March 26, 2012 by Mezira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgonKara Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Maybe some point down the line, when they get the class balances where they want them and sort out the PvP systems a little better, they might add some PvP hardmodes, meaningful rankings and make losses more punishing for hardcore PvPers. Who knows? If there is money in it it could happen. Since launch there is no risk in PvP. No repairs, no penalty and no loss of territory or RVR. The PvP is basically a fun mini-game with 3 maps where you get rewarded even for losing. It's easier than the PvE content and it's popular. Edited March 26, 2012 by MorgonKara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Maybe some point down the line, when they get the class balances where they want them and sort out the PvP systems a little better, they might add some PvP hardmodes, meaningful rankings and make losses more punishing for hardcore PvPers. Who knows? If there is money in it it could happen. Since launch there is no risk in PvP. No repairs, no penalty and no loss of territory or RVR. The PvP is basically a fun mini-game with 3 maps where you get rewarded even for losing. It's easier than the PvE content. qft. Even PvP servers have been fat-free. You go out and actually find a fight, and the guy takes a warzone pop, runs into his story area, dies and rezzes in the same spot, or kites you behind a pillar and casts a 0.5 second speeder mount. And Ilum, nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 pvp added like space missions were added? Marketing?! It's all unraveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgonKara Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I actually like the Warzones a lot but I'm not really hardcore or anything. I had hoped they would have had more RvR systems, because the game is set up for it with 2 factions and territories on each of the planets. The thing is that the main goal of the game is the story progression, so any contested territory would have to be outside the story hubs (or they would have to get rid of the champion guards). It's just not built for open world PvP/RvR. I think the best that you can hope for is a decent ranking system with Warzones and some new maps. Edited March 26, 2012 by MorgonKara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) This is exactly correct. I knew there wouldn't be much at launch but was hoping for plans to involve the planets in a pvp story. Let me try to fight for Belsavis and hold a point once a day. At the end of the day, which ever faction controls the most planets gets a bonus? I mean there's still a ton they can do, but they couldn't even fix ilum, so i am truly letting go tonight. This thread was my last death throe. edit: Can you imagine that????? You get a holocall like, 'imps are moving on Tatooine, head there and try to stop them from taking some base (located in contested area). And your holocall is based on your rated warzone rank or something. And simultaneously 3 planets are all available for capture and remain caputed for 24 hours. So you and your realm have to decide what planet to zerg or split up and fight on. there could be like 2 hour breaks, and base the assault time on the server prime time. Aion had similar 'timed' raids but it would at least be Star WARS. Edited March 26, 2012 by Mezira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 wow i just got a warning for a post I made in january. Obviously someone is reading this thread and my posts. Well that's cool. Try reading the last one I made and flagging for your pvp team. kkthanks. and tell the warhammer guys Mez from Phoenix Throne says hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfVey Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) One day people will complain that it isn't fair people that played for a long time have high valor titles. Edited March 26, 2012 by ShadowOfVey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I lol'd. I just think it's funny not even valor rank 100 will let you dye your hair. there's no point to the system now. You should get +1 Presence for hitting valor 100. At least. Is getting +10 to all stats by jumping around for an hour too OP also, because it involves time. Edited March 26, 2012 by Mezira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgonKara Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Yeah that would be pretty cool. They had some stuff like that in SWG also, with static bases on some planets that could be controlled and planet-wide score that would flip the NPC spawns to your faction. Nothing too major but it was dynamic and it gave us something to compete over. You could tell which faction controlled a planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Yeah that would be pretty cool. They had some stuff like that in SWG also, with static bases on some planets that could be controlled and planet-wide score that would flip the NPC spawns to your faction. Nothing too major but it was dynamic and it gave us something to compete over. You could tell which faction controlled a planet. That's pretty cool. I wish CCP would create a star wars universe off the EVE model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezira Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 i cant even get duels and im on a high pop server. http://www.youtube.com/ehondalol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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