Phraarrii Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 :mad:what the %^$% is up with BM bags opened 15 and not 1 dam commendation bioware u got problems it is no wonder people are quitting and complaining **** like this make person quit in heartbeat fix problems before u dump another patch that's not ready and blows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaplemouton Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 What are you talking about? The next patch is changing this thing you rage QQ about to something you will probably rage QQ about because you seem like the kind of person who rage QQ about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikktwizted Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 :mad:what the %^$% is up with BM bags opened 15 and not 1 dam commendation bioware u got problems it is no wonder people are quitting and complaining **** like this make person quit in heartbeat fix problems before u dump another patch that's not ready and blows All 4 of the ones I have opened have had commendations in them, it really is completely random I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmoney Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I've opened 34 bags and have recieved 3 bm Comms'''' nice huh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phraarrii Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) its not the fact there changing and making it easier its the fact of grinding them out to get nothing except champion commendations which are totally useless while others get them left and right its obvious there is problem with the random generator as far as qq that's what this place for so dev can see there **** ups and fix them Edited March 23, 2012 by Phraarrii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helistin Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 25 percent drop rate. So there are people who have gotten 15 comms from 30 bags and someone else has gotten 2 comms from 30 bags. That's rng for you. Praise the genius that came up with a such a brilliant system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masshake Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 What are you talking about? The next patch is changing this thing you rage QQ about to something you will probably rage QQ about because you seem like the kind of person who rage QQ about anything. yeah its tottaly logical for some people to go 25+ and no comms but i can go 4/8? funny how you gotta insult people cause the have an oppinon and valid point. more nerfs bio ware! keep fixing what aint broken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetou Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I opened 4 bags today and got 3 tokens. My overall drop rate is now 28% from 65 bags. It's random. Sometimes people get lucky, sometimes they don't... a few freak outliers shouldn't be too much of a cause for concern as the vast majority of players will be close to be average rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mSum Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I've opened 34 bags and have recieved 3 bm Comms'''' nice huh.. I think you mean Champion bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonSasquatcho Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Same "problem" here... 27 bm bags in a row with not a single commendation. Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyHalo Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 First 5 bm bags, 5 bm comms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaruenMakai Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) 5 bags , none, 2 from saving up 1k wz and merc tokens though got 2 in maybe the last 2 weeks... so my luck aint so good right now .... but i dont think im being cheated by BW lol Edited March 23, 2012 by ZaruenMakai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SertisKlein Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 There's RNG and then there's not so RNG where the programmer uses the same seed when you open the next bag. I noticed this when getting streaks such as 3-4 (old) champion bags with tokens in them. Now days, when i finish dailies, if I open one bag and get no BM comms, I don't pick up and open the other bag until after my next warzone. Don't want to risk another not-so-RNG experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaruenMakai Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 good tip, ill keep that in mind for next week, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashrick Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 You guys do realize you can buy the comms right? I'm 2/8 on bags but I've also bought two but you're right let's complain when we have to work for something instead of having it handed to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMondo Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I'm 2 Bm comms from 14 bags atm and 2 tokens purchased through commendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaak Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Rank 68 with 1 BM comm from bags. I dont know how many I've opened but its alot. I see guys not even 61 with 4 or 5 BM pieces. I must be lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying-Brian Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Just hit valor 60 on an alt. Opened 16 bags and got 8 tokens. When I hit valor 60 on my main I had 14 bags to open and got 3 tokens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravioli Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) I did not have all BM gear until valor rank 72. I did every daily and weekly for about 2 months to get it all. I bought 3-4 comms after the 1.15 update. Edited March 24, 2012 by gravioli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulmhof Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) There's RNG and then there's not so RNG where the programmer uses the same seed when you open the next bag. I noticed this when getting streaks such as 3-4 (old) champion bags with tokens in them. Now days, when i finish dailies, if I open one bag and get no BM comms, I don't pick up and open the other bag until after my next warzone. Don't want to risk another not-so-RNG experience. Thanks for the Tip. That's something I'm going to start doing. I'm 6 out of about 70bags now, even rage quit for about a month, but Secret World and GuildWars 2 arent out yet so i got no choices. For those that want a better understanding of how terrible this system is and how lazy the BioWare programmers are.... There are 2 types of "Random" Bioware high school low wage Devs use the easy type, it's 1 line of Coding. Battlemaster Comms == 25% chance The other type of "Random" that successful games and more considerate/educated developers use have a slightly more advanced system that actually gives meaning to the fact when they state 25% chance of drop, using the "IF" and "Else IF" statements. Item drop == 25% chance IF the item doesnt drop Add to drop percentage ELSE IF the item DOES drop subtract percentage. Obviously what I typed isn't code language, I just wanted to illustrate how simple it is. It would honestly take any educated programmer less then half an hour to make the "25% chance" a lot closer to 25, and a lot less random. And that includes every user and every character, not just one person. @ OP, sorry about your luck man. If it's any help, I actually only look forward to getting the 15 champion comms to gear up my companions, or min/max my main set/off set of gear. Stressing on getting a Battlemaster token is depressing. But I do look forward to BioWare actually implementing a system where people earn what they get, instead of just being lucky, unforunately I think it's to late for to many people, I know i'm one of them. Edited March 25, 2012 by Paralassa content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viscerus Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I opened 4 bags today and got 3 tokens. My overall drop rate is now 28% from 65 bags. It's random. Sometimes people get lucky, sometimes they don't... a few freak outliers shouldn't be too much of a cause for concern as the vast majority of players will be close to be average rate. A system that allows for freak outliers is broken I am 2/24 on BM tokens since i started keeping track. I quit playing for a month because I got bored and then came back because I read about 1.2 coming soon. Since I came back I am 2/24 on BM tokens in cases. I also don't like a lot of the changes coming in 1.2. The support for PvP in this game is also lamentably bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfVey Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I've opened over 300,000 Battlemaster bags and all I got was 2 half eaten bags of skittles and a penciled picture of crudely drawn genitalia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulmhof Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 A system that allows for freak outliers is broken I am 2/24 on BM tokens since i started keeping track. I quit playing for a month because I got bored and then came back because I read about 1.2 coming soon. Since I came back I am 2/24 on BM tokens in cases. I also don't like a lot of the changes coming in 1.2. The support for PvP in this game is also lamentably bad. You should of known this was never going to be even a respectable PvP game when you read that the Flashpoint/Operations designer was a lead on the PvP aspect. No offense to that guy, I actually enjoy the mechanics (on nightmare since they are worth following). But you can't have a PvE oriented developer have any input on PvP. These are two seperate worlds. You're other clue should have been the joke they call Ilum. Not only did they release it because to call themselves a PvP game, but it was half-assed and not thought through, and if it was thought through it wasn't developed. In either case, ever since Bioware merged with EA their quality of games especially end game endings have dramatically decreased. I'm still debating on Purchasing Secret World or not, after seeing this and ME3 I think I my money would be better spent donating it to some random game company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobamech Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I've opened BM bags every day since Feb 6th, and I've only gotten maybe about 3 tokens from the bags. Valor 67 here. Bioware is a steaming sack of crap. Getting very frustrated. I hope 1.2 is better, but we'll see. I'm glad I wasnt the only one encountering this problematic RNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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