Crabbok Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 There are many reasons why A sentinel should only use 1 saber, I will begin. Concentration - you can concentrate more when you are only worrying about one saber2 Hands- you can grib your saber with both hands and would probably be able to hit harder. More damage = more DPS each hour. Distraction - People might think you are a guardian or sage, and leave you alone. When you have 2 sabers you are everyone's first target. Stayling alive longer = more damage from DPS. Lore - Jedi's only use 2 sabers when theyr companion gets hurt and they need to equip someone else's saber. Other than that they only have one weapon. Look at Anakin, Luke, Obi Wan, and Vader. Purpose - the second saber barely adds any damage anyway... don't be a sellout. Don't be a sellout, use one saber and actually learn to play your class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evixy Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Simple solution, play Guardian or Juggernaut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitussi Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 There are many reasons why A sentinel should only use 1 saber, I will begin. Concentration - you can concentrate more when you are only worrying about one saber2 Hands- you can grib your saber with both hands and would probably be able to hit harder. More damage = more DPS each hour. Distraction - People might think you are a guardian or sage, and leave you alone. When you have 2 sabers you are everyone's first target. Stayling alive longer = more damage from DPS. Lore - Jedi's only use 2 sabers when theyr companion gets hurt and they need to equip someone else's saber. Other than that they only have one weapon. Look at Anakin, Luke, Obi Wan, and Vader. Purpose - the second saber barely adds any damage anyway... don't be a sellout. Don't be a sellout, use one saber and actually learn to play your class. Not true. Here is one example. In the "Darth Bane Trilogy" (the 2nd book) Bane and Zannah are followed by a group of Jedi attempting to stop them from getting an ancient artifact, I think a Sith Holocron. One of the Jedi was a dual-wielding specialist who, ultimately was defeated. She was described as being one of the best Jedi ever to wield dual sabers. Drew Karpyshyn wrote the books, so I would think his "lore" to be accurate for the purpose of providing background for SWTOR. Again, in the Darth Bane books (book 1) Bane's teacher was teaching him about the advantages/disadvantages of single sabers, double-blade, and dual sabers. It provides a distraction to the enemy as well. Ultimately, a master of the force isn't really thinking anyway as the force is flowing through them, directing their actions. More damage doesn't always = more DPS. Hit every 2 seconds doing 10 damage = 5 DPS, hit every second doing 5 dps = 5 DPS. 6 of one, half dozen of the other. Not a valid point. Put a samurai vs a highlander with a huge 2 hander sword and see who wins. Sure the huge sword will do more damage in a single swing, but not necessarily inflict more total damage over a fight. Everyones first target in both PvE and PvP should almost always be a healer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeman Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 There are many reasons why A sentinel should only use 1 saber. Don't be a sellout, use one saber and actually learn to play your class. Telling sentinels to use one saber and to learn their class? This post is so ridiculous it has to be an attempt at trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaspark Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 3/10 a few points for effort... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulex Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Nice troll post lols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuschell Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hey shadows/sins use electrostaves and l2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumfizz Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) sentinel has many problems. its silly skill mechanics is the most glaring one. the number of lightsabers they carry doesn't even make the list. But I'll add this: this is a space mmo, or supposedly, where technology is rampant. I don't understand why we can't use said technology to increase the number of appendages we have so we can wield even more weapons. like a jedi knight with 2 regular arms and 4 mechanical bionic arms each wielding a lightsaber. the game would be way more interesting to me if that was possible. Edited March 10, 2012 by sumfizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRouven Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 In regards to the different lightsaber forms there are (Juyo form etc) it could be an interesting concept - to make the forms/styles visually different. However, with the mechanics and skills that require two lightsabers equipped etc I would not see something like this coming anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabbok Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Not true. Here is one example. In the "Darth Bane Trilogy" (the 2nd book) Bane and Zannah are followed by a group of Jedi attempting to stop them from getting an ancient artifact, I think a Sith Holocron. One of the Jedi was a dual-wielding specialist who, ultimately was defeated. She was described as being one of the best Jedi ever to wield dual sabers. Drew Karpyshyn wrote the books, so I would think his "lore" to be accurate for the purpose of providing background for SWTOR. Again, in the Darth Bane books (book 1) Bane's teacher was teaching him about the advantages/disadvantages of single sabers, double-blade, and dual sabers. It provides a distraction to the enemy as well. Ultimately, a master of the force isn't really thinking anyway as the force is flowing through them, directing their actions. More damage doesn't always = more DPS. Hit every 2 seconds doing 10 damage = 5 DPS, hit every second doing 5 dps = 5 DPS. 6 of one, half dozen of the other. Not a valid point. Put a samurai vs a highlander with a huge 2 hander sword and see who wins. Sure the huge sword will do more damage in a single swing, but not necessarily inflict more total damage over a fight. Everyones first target in both PvE and PvP should almost always be a healer. The books aren't canon and cannot be followed. I could draw a picture of a jedi with lightsaber nunchucks but that don't make it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejarid Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) The books aren't canon and cannot be followed. I could draw a picture of a jedi with lightsaber nunchucks but that don't make it true. I mean, following that logic, Smugglers should only have one blaster, amirite? The problem with people like you and, more importantly, with Lucas himself, is that the world of Star Wars has grown so far that the movies are hardly representational anymore; they're more the, I think, the fulcrum on which the rest of the expanded lore is supposed to be balanced. But, if you want video games to follow canon as if they themselves were canon, then video games must be accepted as canon for the sake of argument. So allow me to introduce you to Boc Aseca (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Boc_Aseca) from Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight: He is a Twi'lek Dark Jedi who dual-wields lightsabers and jumps around like a monkey on crack - which is, actually, the perfect description of the Sentinel's Focus tree. Also, and more recently, Maris Brood (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Maris_Brood) from The Force Unleashed was a dual-saber specialist. Edited March 14, 2012 by Paralassa rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metaspark Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 don't forget Aayla Secura, who actually appeared (although briefly) in the movies, and she used two lightsabers with the Ataru Form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obilam Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I'm in the late 20's currently, so I mmight be a little off with this, but aren't many of our skills limited to carrying two lightsabers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancrizans Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 This is really one of the dumbest things I've read in a long while lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asphen Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 If Sentinels would use one saber, who would use two?? (insert a picture of a dinosaur thinking here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahbaal Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 There are many reasons why A sentinel should only use 1 saber, I will begin. Concentration - you can concentrate more when you are only worrying about one saber2 Hands- you can grib your saber with both hands and would probably be able to hit harder. More damage = more DPS each hour. Distraction - People might think you are a guardian or sage, and leave you alone. When you have 2 sabers you are everyone's first target. Stayling alive longer = more damage from DPS. Lore - Jedi's only use 2 sabers when theyr companion gets hurt and they need to equip someone else's saber. Other than that they only have one weapon. Look at Anakin, Luke, Obi Wan, and Vader. Purpose - the second saber barely adds any damage anyway... don't be a sellout. Don't be a sellout, use one saber and actually learn to play your class. Is this a real post? Do we have the option to use one saber, or is it in fact part of our class? Next time I roll a toon, I will keep you in mind, and try to play something you like more. Oh yeah.....this is a game bro, grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddakar Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) There are many reasons why A sentinel should only use 1 saber, I will begin. Concentration - you can concentrate more when you are only worrying about one saber2 Hands- you can grib your saber with both hands and would probably be able to hit harder. More damage = more DPS each hour. Distraction - People might think you are a guardian or sage, and leave you alone. When you have 2 sabers you are everyone's first target. Stayling alive longer = more damage from DPS. Lore - Jedi's only use 2 sabers when theyr companion gets hurt and they need to equip someone else's saber. Other than that they only have one weapon. Look at Anakin, Luke, Obi Wan, and Vader. Purpose - the second saber barely adds any damage anyway... don't be a sellout. Don't be a sellout, use one saber and actually learn to play your class. 1. Jedi are trained to use two sabers if they follow that form so no concentration is not that big of a deal. 2. two sabers isnt about power but speed 3. Dont run with your sabers out 4. If you knew anything about SW lores you would know that jar kai is the form for two handed saber combat. It was used a lot in the old republic but saw little use during the rise of the empire era due to very little saber to saber combat. 5. offhand is not meant to have really high damage Edited March 11, 2012 by lorddakar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNightfall Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 There are many reasons why A sentinel should only use 1 saber, I will begin. Concentration - you can concentrate more when you are only worrying about one saber2 Hands- you can grib your saber with both hands and would probably be able to hit harder. More damage = more DPS each hour. Distraction - People might think you are a guardian or sage, and leave you alone. When you have 2 sabers you are everyone's first target. Stayling alive longer = more damage from DPS. Lore - Jedi's only use 2 sabers when theyr companion gets hurt and they need to equip someone else's saber. Other than that they only have one weapon. Look at Anakin, Luke, Obi Wan, and Vader. Purpose - the second saber barely adds any damage anyway... don't be a sellout. Don't be a sellout, use one saber and actually learn to play your class. #1-2: You've never actually fought someone who has the level of coordination to fight in the Florentine style, have you? It's hard as hell. They're functionally a whirlwind of attack and defense and you have to be able to deal with everything they can do. Single weapon fighters are at a distinct disadvantage because a true Florentine fighter can attack and block at the same time. Also, stop and think about the weapon for a second. It does not matter how hard you hit. It's a beam of pure energy that defies physics. The strength of the strike is only important if you're hammering past someone's guard. Speed and twice as many attack angles would work much better. #4: There is no official "lore" indicating when a jedi chooses to fight in a two weapons style. Essentially, it requires outstanding coordination and footwork to do. Any one who is skilled enough to fight Florentine has a significant advantage. #5 First you argue a combo of IRL issues (that aren't actually issues) and lore problems (that aren't really lore problems) and now you're telling people to learn to play? Look your class skill tree over. Some of your attacks require two sabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeptastic Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Sents dual wield because it looks cool and it doesn't make sense to give a flashy style to a tank or a caster while the pure dps melee fighter only gets 1 lightsaber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatdan Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Why use a light saber at all? Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) Why use a light saber at all? Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side! lol well played, Sir, well played. It's basic math IMO: One Saber: Awesome Two Sabers: Awesome X2 Edited March 11, 2012 by Belly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitussi Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 The books aren't canon and cannot be followed. I could draw a picture of a jedi with lightsaber nunchucks but that don't make it true. You DO know who Drew Karpyshyn is right? He was one of the lead writers (if not the lead writer) for SWTOR, therefore I would consider anything he writes in the expanded universe books to be canon for the purpose of SWTOR. The EU has become something far greater from what George Lucas probably ever imagined, sticking to his singular vision is like wearing blinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exileme Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 My opinion: http://www.dorkly.com/comic/23515/the-proper-way-to-deal-with-nerd-rage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angaurath Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 give us a Light Zweihander please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillkotd Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 The Jar'Kai tactic of lightsaber dueling is actually seen all over the official Star Wars universe. Both Form IV and Form VI include dual-saber moves. Exar Kun was the most famous practitioner of Jar'Kai, but tons of Jedi practiced it, including Luke Skywalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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