Esaru Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 also if you look at the list Rollercoaster Tycoon 2: Triple Thrill Pack [Download] has been in the top 100 for 185 days and is currently # 9 on the list. I wouldnt want my game to be part of any list that has that game in the top 10. um what the hell? RCT series is CLASSIC. **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Drop the price on any game and people will buy it. You only need to watch Steam's "Top Sellers" and "Specials" lists to see this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 also if you look at the list Rollercoaster Tycoon 2: Triple Thrill Pack [Download] has been in the top 100 for 185 days and is currently # 9 on the list. I wouldnt want my game to be part of any list that has that game in the top 10. Yeah, it is terrible to have "your" game in a top sellers list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordelia Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Actually I think more people are playing this game, being amazons #1 seller and all. Its you who seem to not understand the population trends in a MMO. There will always be a drop in activity before a major patch, then it shoots right back up.... rinse and repeat. If more people are playing where are they? At least here on the European servers there has been no noticeable increase. My server is one of the so called higher populated ones, but even we never have more than 100 on either fleet, and that's on a good night. The fact is the game has been out 2 months and you are already trying to justify population decreases because people are waiting for a major patch. What does that say about a game that people are bored of it in such a short time. To be fair, neither of us should be judging population one way or another until at least the 3 month sub period is up or even the 6 month period. Edited March 1, 2012 by Cordelia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickyickytricky Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) dunno what list you're looking at, but the #9 spot right now is Battlefield 3 well it was earlier as the others saw. The list is updated every hour, DUH! Edited March 1, 2012 by stickyickytricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickyickytricky Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah, it is terrible to have "your" game in a top sellers list. Honestly do you think this has anything to do with anything other than the preorders? If you took them out I bet its not even top 25.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedScotsman Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 It's actually quite a popular game...MMO snobs not withstanding. People love to build rollercoasters in Minecraft too. Go figure. It's not for me, but I don't disparage anyone else's fun. Oh man, I remember my son building roller coasters in Halo 2 and 3. Boring stuff if you ask me, but that kind of game has a big draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysquine Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 People believe that 10 million people are on WoW and they have dead servers. Counter attack for that? Heres one for you: Server transfers! BOOM! Mind blown! Hmm, the servers sure feel quiet for 1.7 million people on them. Guess they must all be hiding on Empire because I certainly don't see many people on Republic. And heres me thinking they were all on republic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackZoback Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 If more people are playing where are they? At least here on the European servers there has been no noticeable increase. My server is one of the so called higher populated ones, but even we never have more than 100 on either fleet, and that's on a good night. The fact is the game has been out 2 months and you are already trying to justify population decreases because people are waiting for a major patch. What does that say about a game that people are bored of it in such a short time. To be fair, neither of us should be judging population one way or another until at least the 3 month sub period is up or even the 6 month period. Fact #1: ToR is the #1 selling mmo sold (2million). Fact #2: ToR is the top selling game currently on amazon. Sorry but facts trump speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysquine Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Fact #1: ToR is the #1 selling mmo sold (2million). Fact #2: ToR is the top selling game currently on amazon. Sorry but facts trump speculation. Sold and Selling - Completely different from actual people playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJHarmon Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Fact #1: ToR is the #1 selling mmo sold (2million). Fact #2: ToR is the top selling game currently on amazon. Sorry but facts trump speculation. Doesn't prove anything as far as how many people are playing the game, just as many people could be quitting the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackZoback Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Doesn't prove anything as far as how many people are playing the game, just as many people could be quitting the game. But it's easier to expect the opposite. 2mill sold - 1.7million resubs = 300,000 people who are smarter then you and realized this game was not for them, but that also makes for another.... Fact #3: ToR is the #1 in sub retention rate of any MMO released But keep on hating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysquine Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) But it's easier to expect the opposite. 2mill sold - 1.7million resubs = 300,000 people who are smarter then you and realized this game was not for them, but that also makes for another.... Fact #3: ToR is the #1 in sub retention rate of any MMO released But keep on hating. I'd like to see these hard numbers for the retention rate. The game has issues, its not perfect, but more and more people are leaving day by day over silly little errors in the game. Fact. Also ! More and more people may be joining the game, but they are joining high populated servers instead of the light servers. Fact. Edited March 1, 2012 by Mysquine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunabaguna Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) From the amazon site help file on best seller ranking: We choose a few of the most popular subcategories in which the item has a high ranking in relation to other items in that subcategory, and showcase the item's rank on the product page. As with the main Amazon Best Sellers list, these category rankings are based on Amazon.com sales and are updated hourly. Basically its Amazon employee opinion based on selling trends. You will notice it went gold special a few days ago for 40 dollars, now its down to $28.53 (directly from Amazon, look in the list of sellers). Not saying the game isnt good, just saying that this isnt really the source you want to quote. If they really believed in this game, they wouldnt be desperately lowering the cost daily. Chances are they have a lot of copies they expected to offload but that their sales decreased HEAVILY within the first month, now they are trying as hard as they can to push the game off on people. The fact is, there is not much of a market for selling this game right now, it had a lot of anticipation and hype before it came out which lead to gigantic amounts of sales, theres no denying that. Its a competent game that has good replayability, but it didnt have an amazement factor that encouraged people to tell their friends en masse. Because of that, its sales arent increasing or even holding steady. The people who were excited about it have it now, and arent getting more people excited about it, meaning sales are dwindling. I would not be surprised if in 3 weeks copies are going for 5 dollars. Edited March 1, 2012 by lunabaguna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickyickytricky Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 that 1.7 million was BS look at the QA on darthhater.com, they admit that that includes people in the free period, so at no time did the game actually have 1.7 million people paying for it. Also they forced you to pick a sub to play your 'free' 30 days. Oh and remember when people couldnt cancel around 1/20..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysquine Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Also they forced you to pick a sub to play your 'free' 30 days. Oh and remember when people couldnt cancel around 1/20..... Sad day seeing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidekkah Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 that 1.7 million was BS look at the QA on darthhater.com, they admit that that includes people in the free period, so at no time did the game actually have 1.7 million people paying for it. Also they forced you to pick a sub to play your 'free' 30 days. Oh and remember when people couldnt cancel around 1/20..... Yeah, who cares that EA said 1.7 million, darthhater.com is clearly more credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurderBunny Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Payday is there. YOU GO PAYDAY! you awesome co-op game you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysquine Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah, who cares that EA said 1.7 million, darthhater.com is clearly more credible. Sadly your sarcasm is right. Darthhater.com is more credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Hmm, the servers sure feel quiet for 1.7 million people on them. Guess they must all be hiding on Empire because I certainly don't see many people on Republic. I sat on a planet with 25+ people for over an hour & nobody spoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouge Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 then again... its the PC top 100.... and i dont think amazon really sells that many PC games. most people would just use steam. Most people who play PC games have never heard of Valve's Steam. As Nerd'cracy is not "most people". And it's Origin for SWTOR, not Valve's Steam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouge Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Except that isn't the case. On my server at least, Empire is just as empty. I seriously doubt 1.7 million people are still playing this game. I'm sure you would have doubted it the day BW collected that bit of data too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysquine Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I sat on a planet with 25+ people for over an hour & nobody spoke. I'm sorry but that made me laugh, purely because I've been there and the thought of being sat there for x period of time and NO ONE says anything on fleet makes me laugh. Anti-social game much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceperson Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'm sorry but that made me laugh, purely because I've been there and the thought of being sat there for x period of time and NO ONE says anything on fleet makes me laugh. Anti-social game much? i turn off general because there are way too many people who want to spoil the storylines on my server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordelia Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'm sure you would have doubted it the day BW collected that bit of data too. And I'm sure you would believe EA if they told you the Earth was flat. Here's a little tip, just because someone tells you something doesn't necessarily mean it's always the truth. Shocking I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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