It isn't getting better at all. There is still huge ability delay for many people and worse is that no one seems to care at BW. I understand it's the holidays, which is why many are cutting them some slack, but they better put everything they've got into solving this in the New Year. I've subbed since launch and I've never known the game play this badly. The fact it started with patch 3.0 is no coincidence.

I was playing on an alt and Nar Shadaa was just horrendous for ability delay. On other planets I'm getting like 2 or so second delays which is bad enough to affect gameplay but here I counted up to 10 seconds for one of my abilities to go off which is crazy. At first I thought I must have missed the ability but then I tried waiting and sure enough it does work but after that huge delay. I'm also noticing companions being left behind. This is definitely a galaxy wide phenomenon it just seems worse on some planets than others but every planet is affected. And for me it has ONLY started since patch 3.0.

This. I actually got so frustrated with the ability delay I had to log out. It's not really what I pay a sub for. The fact it has dragged on for weeks now is shocking in itself.

Well, it might actually get addressed if the issue isn't allowed to drop off the front page. It is actually game-breaking for many people.

I agree. It's got ridiculous. I thought I'd try play some of my alts as people said certain classes weren't as affected by the ability delay. Well, I seem to get it on whatever I choose. In literally every fight it starts OK, then an ability just doesn't seem to do anything for like 3 seconds, then the next will work OK and it flits between these 2 states for the rest of the fight. It makes it impossible to play as it throws your rotation totally, also I've given up trying to heal whilst the game is in this state. Missed or delayed abilities aren't good for people's health Just to add this has only started to happen for me since patch 3.0, SoR. All was fine before.

Couldn't we just have a playable Wookie that happens to have lost its voice for some reason It's one of the species I would love to be able to make a character with.

By that logic giving everyone an instant level 55 would also be popular. Only Bioware could spin even faster levelling through the game as a pre-order 'bonus'

To be fair, that's because WoW always has true expansions. BIoware use the term rather 'loosely' where SWTOR is concerned.

It's more the fact that subs pay the same price. At this point it seems there's no good reason not to just become a 'preferred' player.

You are paying for them, they aren't free. OK, yes, you pay a sub so you don't suffer the draconian restrictions of F2P, but you could remove those restrictions by buying CC unlocks. The sub offers you nothing other than not being beaten with the stick of restrictions. That's why F2P is done all wrong in this game. It's all based around negatives rather than positive reasons to sub. The CC are given as a sweetener to make a sub seem worth the money.

Wait....you mean you didn't get that ?

Happy 10th Anniversary SWG, you are sorely missed I think it launched on 26th June and I started at the beginning of July 2003, some great memories, best MMO I have ever played in many ways, that's in 13 years of MMO'ing

Thanks Levity That's actually really interesting, I love finding out the obscure origins of things which are now commonplace.

In STO you also get a monthly amount of ZEN as a lifetime sub. Yeah, I did fall for that one , no more lifetime subs EVER again for me

Ok, thank you. I hadn't thought of buying off the GTN (can tell I've been away), I think I have plenty of credits so if its saves me precious cc all the better

One word says it all for me , SPACE !

Well, I'm actually going to ask you a serious question Andryah. I haven't spent any of my CC yet due to having a break from the game for a few months, what would you recommend I buy ? I think Cathar is a given.

It's only a bit of fun Andryah, I couldn't resist

Andryah minding her own business, such delicious irony

Ain't that the truth ! The word 'Biodrone' was specifically invented for her I'm taking a break from the game but check on the forums every so often and there she is in every thread. Still, I would do it too if I was being paid to. It went quiet for a few weeks earlier in the year. I guess she was on vacation. I think I'd miss it now if she didn't do it, it's one of those things you can rely on in life to be constant

A lot of us look back with rose tinted glasses, but even having said that it still ranks as my best MMO experience in 14 years of playing them. The community interaction before the NGE was fantastic and I have never managed to recapture that since.

Darth Plagueis by James Luceno. A great read about the rise of Darth Sidious. I really enjoyed it and recommend it.

It's been done to death and this thread is an attempt to stir things up again. Many people have strong feelings about SWG

It pretty much is a clone of WoW's, gameplay, UI, talent trees. But then that could be said of most MMO's thesdays, no one wants to innovate they all want to follow the dream of WoW's level of subs, despite that being unachievable. Sadly, it looks like The Elder Scrolls Online will be the next one to fall into that trap.

That's the whole problem with F2P here, being a subscriber isn't about perks or benefits, it's just not having the draconian restrictions imposed on the F2P people. There is no carrot it's all stick.