TurnsOffPain Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Greetings my comrades of the empire. I just hit level 50 and have used the hybrid Madness-Lightning spec for 40 levels: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201ZbsMMdZcrcRsMkrc.1 I've seen the guides stickied but they are ancient. I would like for some new thoughts and replies on your playstyle/build. Is my current build PvP worthy or just for PvE as I had intended it to be? How are pure skill point sorcerers doing now? Such as 100% lightning or etc..? I'd like to know how the maximum talent skills perform and if anyone of them is worth it. Please reply and assist me... I would be most grateful for any help whatsoever. -Thank you for your time, Darth Serbikuun Totmacher of Ven Zallow. Edited February 27, 2012 by TurnsOffPain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitsuo Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Greetings my comrades of the empire. I just hit level 50 and have used the hybrid Madness-Lightning spec for 40 levels: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201ZfoMMdZcrcRsMkrc.1 I've seen the guides stickied but they are ancient. I would like for some new thoughts and replies on your playstyle/build. Is my current build PvP worthy or just for PvE as I had intended it to be? How are pure skill point sorcerers doing now? Such as 100% lightning or etc..? I'd like to know how the maximum talent skills perform and if anyone of them is worth it. Please reply and assist me... I would be most grateful for any help whatsoever. -Thank you for your time, Darth Serbikuun Totmacher of Ven Zallow. The points in Electric Induction are a complete waste, Convection>>>>>>Electric Induction, ESPECIALLY in PvE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnsOffPain Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) The points in Electric Induction are a complete waste, Convection>>>>>>Electric Induction, ESPECIALLY in PvE Yeah, I know I accidentally clicked that instead of convection. So what do you think about my current build or what I should alter? Here is one: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201hZbsMrd0rZfr0RsMz.1 Also the same build, just before I tweaked it to become the one above is right below... I've seen the: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201hZfc0rd0rZfr0RsMz.1 and wonder if that is as good as my current build... I have never gone past my current build into Lightning as I've always heard madness is superior to lightning Edited February 27, 2012 by TurnsOffPain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitsuo Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yeah, I know I accidentally clicked that instead of convection. So what do you think about my current build or what I should alter? Here is one: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201hZbsMrd0rZfr0RsMz.1 Also the same build, just before I tweaked it to become the one above is right below... I've seen the: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201hZfc0rd0rZfr0RsMz.1 and wonder if that is as good as my current build... I have never gone past my current build into Lightning as I've always heard madness is superior to lightning The current spec you run is very good at using a LOT of control during PvP. If you wish to do PvE, the 0/13/28 build is superior in pure damage. Hope that helps a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnsOffPain Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 The current spec you run is very good at using a LOT of control during PvP. If you wish to do PvE, the 0/13/28 build is superior in pure damage. Hope that helps a bit. It does, just wanting to hear other peoples current thoughts on builds. especially the full skill page builds such as all the way in madness or lightning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jundi Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 This after a million credits is my favorite build for both pve and pvp. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201ZccrMdRMhZcrcMRMz.1 If you look at the abilities and what they do from both trees you will notice one from one tree compliments another. I also, like have the Whirlwind ability for HMs and WZs. Being able to CC mobs in a HM instantly has bailed my group out time after time. It also works well in pvp when someone gets in a hazard, thus allowing the environment to make the kill for me. This build recovers and reduces force costs, allowing me to use chain lightning back to back and stack crushing darkness instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caultonpos Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 For PvP I'd go with http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201Zfc0MdMdZcMcRsrkM.1 Reason being you really want Backlash and Haunted Dreams so you can protect yourself and eliminate an opponent. To avoid being targeted all the time I'd reduce the spamming of Force Lightning for when you want to trigger a instant cast of Crushing Darkness or Chain Lightning. So Affliction, Shock, Death field make up the remainder of your attacks when not cc'ing, popping your shield, sprinting away from a marauder etc. hence the extra points into madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ururururu Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) required (dps) : wrath, instant whirlwind, electric bindings, chain lightning your spec is missing electric bindings. how can you pvp without it? my god man edit :: well.. I didn't try it yet but maybe 31 madness can compensate for not having electric bindings. now I'm gonna have to try it, dangit! Edited February 27, 2012 by ururururu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehme Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 yeah for reals you got to find a way to get electric bindings in your build for those dang maras/sents. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitsuo Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 required (dps) : wrath, instant whirlwind, electric bindings, chain lightning your spec is missing electric bindings. how can you pvp without it? my god man edit :: well.. I didn't try it yet but maybe 31 madness can compensate for not having electric bindings. now I'm gonna have to try it, dangit! 0/13/28 is the spec I PvP with, I make do fine without electric bindings, the vanilla slow+knockback+WW+Stun (Not all at the same time, but spread out) is enough to kite anyone, Binding is overkill if you use everything right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ururururu Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I found the opposite -- electric binding is not overkill vs. quality opposition. E.g. you need it vs. marauders or you're just dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projeKte Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 In my opinion ... http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201G0bZrs0MdMzZcrzRsMz.1 - seems to be the best DPS for PvP. Spamming force lightning, affliction, chain lighting, death field and never running out of force. I personally have switched to a hybrid healer / dps spec to try to win more than lose. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201GhMRboZbc0MZcrzRsMz.1 Healing / DPS totals end up pretty dead even, with neither being really high - but the utility of the build for winning is awesome. I'm sure you could switch a few points out to grab innervate if needed, but I like the effective bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkdeagler Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 In my opinion ... http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201G0bZrs0MdMzZcrzRsMz.1 - seems to be the best DPS for PvP. Spamming force lightning, affliction, chain lighting, death field and never running out of force. I personally have switched to a hybrid healer / dps spec to try to win more than lose. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201GhMRboZbc0MZcrzRsMz.1 Healing / DPS totals end up pretty dead even, with neither being really high - but the utility of the build for winning is awesome. I'm sure you could switch a few points out to grab innervate if needed, but I like the effective bubble. I actually did this myself before taking a small break from the game. Do you feel like the healing hybrid brought more to the table in the end? A part of me feels like just being more situational about my heals/bubbles and being smarter about them might allow me to be almost as useful in a pure dps spec but with much more upside for my damage/kills. My healing numbers with the hybrid spec hover around 200k but I can't tell if its good healing that is helping to win fights or not :\ In a pure dps spec id probably pull half that but it would mostly be self healing and emergency heals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDiggler Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201ZbsrMdRbhzZsr0Rszz.1 I like polarity shift over the instant whirlwind, you already have plenty of CC..... You have the blind and overload to escape, and the joys of hitting polarity shift with a relic and hitting a lightning barrage force lightning is full of win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanimus Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201ZbsMrdMr0zZfr0RsMz.1 best pvp spec, if you want to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projeKte Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I actually did this myself before taking a small break from the game. Do you feel like the healing hybrid brought more to the table in the end? A part of me feels like just being more situational about my heals/bubbles and being smarter about them might allow me to be almost as useful in a pure dps spec but with much more upside for my damage/kills. My healing numbers with the hybrid spec hover around 200k but I can't tell if its good healing that is helping to win fights or not :\ In a pure dps spec id probably pull half that but it would mostly be self healing and emergency heals. When I play with this healer hybrid spec I typically finish 200-300k healing and 180-200k dmg. It's very effective and most of the healing goes to other players so I definitely end up winning more often. With my DPS hybrid spec I can break 400k dmg pretty easily and finish with 100k+ healing, but that's almost entirely healing myself and I seem to lose more. I prefer the hybrid healing spec when playing with good players and guildies as we can almost guarentee an easy win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xNocturnalx Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Best over all PVP and PVE go with Hybrid 0/13/28 this spec is what im using.. im alway 95% 1st or top 3 in wz. my damages are usually in 300k-400k this spec has so much mobility.. and does huge amount of damage.. im fully Champ geared. in hutt ball, or any other wz.. u just dot them up and do ur skills. and when wrath proc u just use chain lightning.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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