Mohahaa Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Please Bioware it's time to nefr Imp agents "backstab" attack. It's been OP since the game released and it's still. Was playing pvp for about 5 mins ago and a imp agent was sneaking up on me in stealth. He stunned me and kill me 4 secs. I didn't even get out of the stun and he used only one ability. The "backstab" OPattack. I'm fully champion geared, it's possible that he had fully BM or something but should you really go down so fast? No other class in the whole game can take down a player that quick in pvp. So please! Nerf attack!! ASAP! Edited February 23, 2012 by Wekeltes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaMayhem Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Was there any way you could get your points across without all the rage and vulgar language? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscad Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I think they should buff the **** out of it because it is severely underpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delonyer Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I think they should buff the **** out of it because it is severely underpowered. After reading your sig, it's clear you're an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gao_Gao Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 this post is just a lie. you cannot spam backstab, first of all, and their burst damage was reduced by a lot. you're just a bad, not due to your pvp skills, but your forum skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohahaa Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Was there any way you could get your points across without all the rage and vulgar language? I guess not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheisty Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Whats OP about them is that they can basically have you in a stunlock for too long. After you get out of it you are at 1/2 health and cannot make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohahaa Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) this post is just a lie. you cannot spam backstab, first of all, and their burst damage was reduced by a lot. you're just a bad, not due to your pvp skills, but your forum skills. I don't know. But he killed by only using that attack and spaming it. But I've been up against "glitchers", hackers before so it's possible that was the problem. But I know that the attack has been pissing me off before. But this time really got me angry. Couldn't do a ****.... And I guess you can't read...I was stunned for the whole time. Let me know what you would do if you would be in the same situation. And also the imparing remove ability was on CD. So give me a good answer Edited February 23, 2012 by Mohahaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Whats OP about them is that they can basically have you in a stunlock for too long. After you get out of it you are at 1/2 health and cannot make it up. Every class has an ability to get out of CC. Try using it when you need it most. The Imp > Operative in question likely used the several knife attacks available to him, one of which is a CC. There is no way you can blame this solely on the backstab attack because the cool down time for that is much too long to spam it. He just rocked his Vibrobalde and you didn't react in time to stop him. Standard PvP situation. Working as intended. No nerfs necessary. And btw, the Smuggler > Scoundrel can do the same damn thing. Edited February 23, 2012 by Blackavaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logisitcs Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Whats OP about them is that they can basically have you in a stunlock for too long. After you get out of it you are at 1/2 health and cannot make it up. Apparently resolve is supposed to prevent that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izumal Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 But rather than asking, you title the thread asking for a nerf, because agents can just backstab over and over, NOT Here is a tip, wait until debilitate (the knife electructuing you) before you trinket, pushback, stun them, root or slow them, most times you will survive if you l2p Of course gear makes a difference Just standing there ignoring an agent will get you killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
they Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Every class has an ability to get out of CC. Try using it when you need it most. The Imp > Operative in question likely used the several knife attacks available to him, one of which is a CC. There is no way you can blame this solely on the backstab attack because the cool down time for that is much too long to spam it. He just rocked his Vibrobalde and you didn't react in time to stop him. Standard PvP situation. Working as intended. No nerfs necessary. And btw, the Smuggler > Scoundrel can do the same damn thing. Scrapper spec'd, it's really -all- we do. Pew pew pew, vanish. We aren't very survivable, the burst doesn't last forever, and if we run out of energy, we're pretty much done. I'd say it's fairly balanced. (Speaking as a 50 vanguard who has been on the receiving end, as well as a 40 scoundrel dishing it.) If you can outlast the burst we have, there's a good chance you can take us down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urael Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Please Bioware it's time to nefr Imp agents "backstab" attack. It's been OP since the game released and it's still. ...... So please! Nerf attack!! ASAP! No. Every class has an ability to get out of CC. Try using it when you need it most. ^ This. L2P? Edited February 23, 2012 by Urael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohahaa Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Every class has an ability to get out of CC. Try using it when you need it most. The Imp > Operative in question likely used the several knife attacks available to him, one of which is a CC. There is no way you can blame this solely on the backstab attack because the cool down time for that is much too long to spam it. He just rocked his Vibrobalde and you didn't react in time to stop him. Standard PvP situation. Working as intended. No nerfs necessary. And btw, the Smuggler > Scoundrel can do the same damn thing. Maybe he did I have no Idea what ablilites he used that's why I wrote it like this "backstab". A guess the first one was an attack, the second one a stun and 4 that came after was attacks and all those 4 came under the time I was stunned. But the only thing I saw was these 2,3-2,6 k crits and a dot, then I was down. Maybe it's not the attack itself that's need a nerf, maybe it's something that makes their burst damage do that sick of dmg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineschmidt Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 No. ^ This. L2P? QFT It's a l2p issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohahaa Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 For everybody that doesn't seem to read the other posts in the thread. CC remove ability = CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pairadox Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Please Bioware it's time to nefr Imp agents "backstab" attack. It's been OP since the game released and it's still. Was playing pvp for about 5 mins ago and a imp agent was sneaking up on me in stealth. He stunned me and kill me 4 secs. I didn't even get out of the stun and he used only one ability. The "backstab" OPattack. I'm fully champion geared, it's possible that he had fully BM or something but should you really go down so fast? No other class in the whole game can take down a player that quick in pvp. So please! Nerf attack!! ASAP! So what you are saying is he hit you with one attack, and it killed you. Not two attacks, not ten attacks, but one attack, one time? Which would be total horsecrap, since its on a 9second cooldown. bad troll is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotByBothSides Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 PvP envy rage. No nerf needed, expecially as this would be a case where other aspects of the game get shafted by the need to balance, which is not the case here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineschmidt Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 For everybody that doesn't seem to read the other posts in the thread. CC remove ability = CD Still doesn't change backstab ISN'T spammable You clearly don't know how the class works, got out played and now you're screaming nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilladilla Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Nope. Fine the way it is. And I'm speaking as a healing sorc in PVP who gets steamrolled if an op gets the jump on me when my "trinket" is on cool down. It's annoying as hell, but it's my own fault for letting it happen in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jholiday Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I agree with the op.. I play 2 toons.. 1st is a Jugg w/ a full set of Bm (both tank and dps) Full Rakata Tank +Dps 2nd is a Merc lvl 35 good gear, but obviously not set.. Tried dps and tank specs for Jugg, and merc is dps /off healer Agents absolutly molest me in PvP ..same with smglers.. i get crited on the first hit and by the time i can break Cc im 1 shot from dead.. way overpowered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valsdad Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 For everybody that doesn't seem to read the other posts in the thread. CC remove ability = CD Teamwork = a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Sheridan Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Stealth class that is supposed to burst attack someone to death before they react - Working as intended. This is why Stealth classes often end up being despised in ANY GAME because they offer a brutal first-strike capability that ends up following this trend. I have been on the receving end of this and been the one to dish it out. Fortunatly, I have the intelligence to play the other classes so I can figure out how they work. Rather than bawl like a child for the Devs to Nerf everything that causes me to lose... rather than learn WHY I lost. Pro-Tip: You think you were getting hit by backstab repeatedly - Roll an Agent and you might have a clue what your talking about. Dont worry, you should figure out your failings by level 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urael Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) It's a l2p issue Agreed. Those of us that watched "that other game"'s PvP nerfchurn saw this every patch. Step One. Nerf Class X. Step Two. Class X gets nerffed 'cause less than 1% of VOCAL players cried. Step Three. Now Nerf Class Y because same people that were pwned by Class X are crying again. Step Four. Repeat on and on until everyone is nerfed and then the whole thing starts over again. IN THE MEAN TIME.... PvE gets WRECKED!!! So in conclusion. Please BW don't listen to these calls for nerfs 999/1000 they are usually L2p issues. Edited February 23, 2012 by Urael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urael Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Stealth class that is supposed to burst attack someone to death before they react - Working as intended. This is why Stealth classes often end up being despised in ANY GAME because they offer a brutal first-strike capability that ends up following this trend. I have been on the receving end of this and been the one to dish it out. Fortunatly, I have the intelligence to play the other classes so I can figure out how they work. Rather than bawl like a child for the Devs to Nerf everything that causes me to lose... rather than learn WHY I lost. Pro-Tip: You think you were getting hit by backstab repeatedly - Roll an Agent and you might have a clue what your talking about. Dont worry, you should figure out your failings by level 10. ^ This QFE /agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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