ImperialSun Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Hi guys I've just hit level 43 on my merc and I'm after some feedback on my current rotation. This feels pretty much like it will still be my main rotation at level 50 but as above, Im after some pointers on how efficient you think it is right now: TM-TM-TM-RS-HSM-UL-TM-TM-UL (if its procced and is ready for use again) What do you guys think? Driz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkenDragon Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 you got it all over the place and kinda in the wrong order, read my post at the bottom of this http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=304747&page=4 it'll explain it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialSun Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 you got it all over the place and kinda in the wrong order, read my post at the bottom of this http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=304747&page=4 it'll explain it all Right... So your saying: TM-TM-TM (to stack 5 x heat sig / 5 x tracer lock) then RS-UL-HSM-TM-TM-UL (if procced and available)?? On the basis that UL is more heat efficient than HSM? Driz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkenDragon Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 no thats not what im saying, arsenal mercs do not have a rotation where you can simply just cycle through a set of abilities because 1 cycle before it resets is VERY LONG your basically constantly casting tracer missiles until a certain event happens. and the priority list is Rail shot - if the target has 5 heat signatures and I have 5 tracer locks Unload - if the target has 5 heat signatures, also use thermo override sensors if my heat is 24 or higher Heat seeker missiles - if the target has 5 heat signatures Tracer missiles meaning if the conditions for that ability is not met, you go to the next ability, until you can cast something and then you restart the priority list. you might think this is a slow process but once you understand the conditions, it'll be second nature and thus run easily for example a starting rotation is 3 tracer missiles to apply the 5 heat signatures, because you cant cast anything else until you have 5 heat signatures now you'll cast unload since you only have 3 tracer locks and unload is the next ability. now you'll cast heat seeker missiles. now you'll cast 2 more tracer missiles cuz unload and HSM is on cooldown and this will bring tracer lock to 5 stacks now you cast rail shot. then you continue to cast tracer missile until either barrage procs to give you the ability to cast unload again. or until either one of the abilities finishes cooldown as you can see there is no set rotation cuz barrage can proc at any moment and you'll have to insert your unload at that moment, theres no blind rotation where no matter the situation you can just continue to cycle through skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tWoJo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Tm > tm > tm > hsm (this before unload to get it in rotation quicker) > unload > tm > tm > rs > then start using everything on cooldown while managing ur heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkenDragon Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Tm > tm > tm > hsm (this before unload to get it in rotation quicker) > unload > tm > tm > rs > then start using everything on cooldown while managing ur heat. ive tested this out quite alot and though it does help quicken your rotation but it also increases heat generation by alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahdasz Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I thought the correct rotation for arsenal was TM TM TM TM TM RS TM TM TM TM TM RS TM TM TM TM TM RS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cegenaus Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I thought the correct rotation for arsenal was TM TM TM TM TM RS TM TM TM TM TM RS TM TM TM TM TM RS... no no no the correct rotation is: lightning, lightning, lightning, lightning, bubble, force run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialSun Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 ive tested this out quite alot and though it does help quicken your rotation but it also increases heat generation by alot Thanks thats pretty much exactly what I am doing now... I'll test out DarekenDragons method and see if this brings the benefits he describes around heat management. Thanks for the help guys Driz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denarok Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Never mind ignore my message i figured it out. Edited February 20, 2012 by Denarok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazule Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 i really dont understand if you have heatseaker you should be venting heat assuming you have 30% crit or better? *edit, had HS in where TM belonged, just a bit tarded and now fixed* 2xTM = 50heat - 18(fluting) - 8 (assumign you will crit one) - 15 (3 seconds of 5hps) = 9 heat you need to hit rapid shots after 2 missles? even if you dont crit you are at 18 heat ... so assume 18 heat unload = 16 heat - 15 (3 second cast) -8 (assuming a crit) + 18 (where you started) = 11 you are at 11 heat and you started at 18!!!! if you were at 9 heat when you hit unload you are at zero heat rotation should be TM/TM/Unload/HS/TM/TM/TM/Rail ... but always hit unload when it is up... it is a heat vent with damage attached. if you crit one of the first TM's you can do TM/TM/TM/Unload/HS/TM/TM/Rail I seriously hope that helps. it really is not that hard... once you have heat under control then worry about edart or fusion... that other link goes to a bunch of people talking garbage about alacrity... above i quote myself from another post, for HEAT EFFICIENCY, this is the way to go, it is not bursting dps, this is the 'long haul' priority with an opening rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamerii Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I am not lvl 50 yet, but i am trying this rotation that is recommended here and i do ******** of damage but after the first RS i am on 60-70 heat... To be able to cast that RS i have to press Vent heat or Thermal sensor override to manage to keep under 40 heat...Is that because my crit only are 24% or do you take small pauses in the cycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkenDragon Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 yup your crits are too low, your not getting that 8 vent per 3 seconds, and are you casting heat seeker missiles before unload? that could be the other problem. also are you only using Tracer Missiles, Rail shot, Unload, and Heat seeker missiles? anything else is gonna cause you to overheat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazule Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) I am not lvl 50 yet, but i am trying this rotation that is recommended here and i do ******** of damage but after the first RS i am on 60-70 heat... To be able to cast that RS i have to press Vent heat or Thermal sensor override to manage to keep under 40 heat...Is that because my crit only are 24% or do you take small pauses in the cycle? i never pause, ever, so if you were refering to my rotation yes it is because your crit is about 10% lower than mine. also my railshot is free with set pieces so that is a big difference as well 3 pce rakata, the rest columi for pve Edited February 21, 2012 by Yazule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamerii Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Atm i am only using TM and unload, ill get HSM on the next lvl Specced a bit in the other trees before maxing out arsenal... whanted that 16 extra heat on heat vent and critchanse. I find it very hard to get up against 30% crit with gear below lvl 50, or mayby i am not alone with that problem...? On the other hand its really not any problem so far because everything is so easy anyway, i am just interrested to get as much input as possible to get ready to that long fights against big bosses later so i dont pick the wrong gear when starting to earn better gear. It takes so much time having to repick gear... Edited February 22, 2012 by Dreamerii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delltron Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 no no no the correct rotation is: lightning, lightning, lightning, lightning, bubble, force run If you are doing this then you are a terrible, terrible sorc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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