Labradoraki Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Since snipers are pretty much the squishiest class ingame and their damage is quite weak since their damage is migated by armor.... So i found out what is the best solution fo rhis problem increase the range of sniper attacks to 40 or 45m and make casted skills ignore los if the casting has already started when the target is visible... this wont buff their weak damage due to armor migation but will buff their survability and help them kill people that hide the last second to los Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDangerously Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Whoa, wait.... Aren't you supposed to be crying for a nerf for something? Isn't that your thing? Oh hang on... I suppose there will be 4 more posts popping up from you in the next 10 minutes, I'm sure they will be there, nvm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Whoa, wait.... Aren't you supposed to be crying for a nerf for something? Isn't that your thing? Oh hang on... I suppose there will be 4 more posts popping up from you in the next 10 minutes, I'm sure they will be there, nvm... well only juggernaut, marauder, mercenary, assassin, healers need a nerf, the rest need a buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgamer Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Ha, what? As a rage Jugg, snipers are about the only class I can't kill if they know what they're doing. Cover = interrupt and charge immune. I can't use my gap closer. Cover pulse = me knocked back + the root if you spec'd right. Then once I'm unrooted, I must walk slowly back to you because again, I can't charge. By this point, if I'm not close to dead, you're doing something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabaker Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Ha, what? As a rage Jugg, snipers are about the only class I can't kill if they know what they're doing. Cover = interrupt and charge immune. I can't use my gap closer. Cover pulse = me knocked back + the root if you spec'd right. Then once I'm unrooted, I must walk slowly back to you because again, I can't charge. By this point, if I'm not close to dead, you're doing something wrong. Indeed. The only class i say: "**** (" Edited February 17, 2012 by LexiCazam Avoiding the filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Indeed. The only class i say: "**** (" i guess i ll take a page out of l2p warriors book and say l2p Edited February 17, 2012 by LexiCazam Avoiding the filter - quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherMcLoud Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Hurray for forum ignore list. Labradorovski or what's-his-name only posts crap like this. Troll be trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabaker Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 i guess i ll take a page out of l2p warriors book and say l2p Yep, there is totally something you can do as Juggernaut/Guardian against good Snipers. No wait, there isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryhmr Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) squishiest class in the game? you have range and medium armor with a cover mechanic. try being infiltration spec shadow/sin. Not being able to los your shots would be retarded since you can 4 shot a shadow/sin at range. Edited February 17, 2012 by gryhmr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Yep, there is totally something you can do as Juggernaut/Guardian against good Snipers. No wait, there isn't. HAHAHA Juggernaut having trouble with gunslinger is a joke. You are horribly undergeared or horrible OR both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fujah Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I only have a low level Sniper, level 18, but line of sight can really blow. I was playing in one WZ and I was getting LoS a lot. Very frustrating. So I decided to level another alt :-). But they also have some great advantages. But man, all my heavy hitters were long cast times. One time a guy was playing Peek-a-boo with me. He was behind a pillar and he knew I was loading up my shot and at the perfect time, back behind the Pillar :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masahiko Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Yep, there is totally something you can do as Juggernaut/Guardian against good Snipers. No wait, there isn't. Stop trying to walk to them would be a good bet. Getting a friend would be another. Using LoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazule Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 and their damage is quite weak lol coffee went up my nose when i read this good one, april fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 lol coffee went up my nose when i read this good one, april fools well try that on 50 fully geared targets that have 50-70% armor migation PLUS those who HAVE SHIELD are simply unkilla, and then come back and talk.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubfist Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Using LoS. You exploiters! You just wait til the OP's buffs go through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SajPl Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Give them another 3 knochbaks 3 stunds, and make them take 70% of your health in 2 seconds instead of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Give them another 3 knochbaks 3 stunds, and make them take 70% of your health in 2 seconds instead of 3. hahaha what nice lies..... we have 1 knockback, 1 MELEE STUN!!! 1 weak flashbang that is only useful for interrupt and thats it.... omg we have so many.... and we are the squishiest class in game and we should have those.... oh yes we also have a root as a sniper class omg totally overpowered..... l2p plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirthadrond Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I would vote for a 'click' power that increases range temporarily, with a minute cool down. Channeled powers working after losing LOS? No way, that WOULD make snipers overpowered. OP - you have OTHER attacks 'besides' you're channeled ones.... just an FYI. You could always try moving out of cover, and back into cover for an 'instant' snipe, if you've spec'd it. Again... just an FYI. You can then use 'Follow Through'. LOS problems solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 I would vote for a 'click' power that increases range temporarily, with a minute cool down. Channeled powers working after losing LOS? No way, that WOULD make snipers overpowered. OP - you have OTHER attacks 'besides' you're channeled ones.... just an FYI. You could always try moving out of cover, and back into cover for an 'instant' snipe, if you've spec'd it. Again... just an FYI. You can then use 'Follow Through'. LOS problems solved. no, you dont have a speed boost to run halfway to battlefield to hit the target that by that time has already full health, sorry los is the main problem of sniper and needs to be fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desgarden Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) squishiest class in the game? you have range and medium armor with a cover mechanic. try being infiltration spec shadow/sin. Not being able to los your shots would be retarded since you can 4 shot a shadow/sin at range. Obviously you have no clue how much the cover mechanic works. It helps more or less only...against other snipers. Now isn't that ironic? Of course this excludes the few times you find a good hard cover place And juggernauts complaining about snipers? Seriously? Marksman snipers have the most problems against heavy armour wearing targets. Against tanks it is even worse because marksman is one of the few spec in the game where the shot has a.) to hit and b.) penetrate ALL available defense in-game (yes, shield chances, too) - that's why usually the squishy gets targeted. Wow, just wow. Edited February 17, 2012 by Desgarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manigma Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 hahaha what nice lies..... we have 1 knockback, 1 MELEE STUN!!! 1 weak flashbang that is only useful for interrupt and thats it.... omg we have so many.... and we are the squishiest class in game and we should have those.... oh yes we also have a root as a sniper class omg totally overpowered..... l2p plz Actually dps spec Assassin is more squishy, even with shield, just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doxxs Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 A few ideas: Either half the cast and cool down times of ambush or significantly raise the damage and defense penetration on it Slightly lower cast time of snipe ( this Is sometimes instant but not always) Allow series of shots to be used outside of cover (as well as in of course) Fix cover pulse (fails me about 50% of the time) and give it a longer root Fix entrench I shouldnt be able to be knocked back with it up Give us stealth detection either in passive talent or activatable skill Increase damage mitigation of cover Increase range to 45m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lJustAlexl Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Stop trying to walk to them would be a good bet. Getting a friend would be another. Using LoS. Are you actually arguing that running away from them, thus ending the fight, or asking someone else to kill them for you is a method of killing snipers as a warrior? Hilarious. The point made was that there's little warriors can do on their own to attack them if the sniper/gunslinger knows what they're doing and you've just supported their argument. A true strategy is to get close enough without them noticing (not easy for good snipers) for force choke/stasis, snare them (prevents them from using cover for the duration) and then wearing them down before it goes away or re-applying the snare if an opportunity arises. If they have you in your sights at the edge of a raised platform in the distance, retreat is the only viable option, however. They are the paper to our rock in those circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masahiko Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Snipe would be more interesting if it built instead of had a cast time. Such that it would do more damage after certain time thresholds and cost less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuthirFontaine Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Are you actually arguing that running away from them, thus ending the fight, or asking someone else to kill them for you is a method of killing snipers as a warrior? Hilarious. The point made was that there's little warriors can do on their own to attack them if the sniper/gunslinger knows what they're doing and you've just supported their argument. A true strategy is to get close enough without them noticing (not easy for good snipers) for force choke/stasis, snare them (prevents them from using cover for the duration) and then wearing them down before it goes away or re-applying the snare if an opportunity arises. If they have you in your sights at the edge of a raised platform in the distance, retreat is the only viable option, however. They are the paper to our rock in those circumstances. Your rock has an annoying way of not taking damage.... I dont think, as a gunslinger, our class is broken but its harder then most to play... Maybe a range increase would be nice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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