Knewt Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Name an mmo feature it lacks that wow has Combat log Customizable UI Macro support Addon support Dual specs Functional LFG tool I could keep going, but I think this covers some of the biggest deficiencies. And dont say LFG tool because thats a load of bollox infact it makes it more of an mmo not having one since you have to build relationships with PEOPLE Standing in the Fleet trying to get a group is boring. They have a LFG tool for Warzones, they should have it for PvE content too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheisty Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I would say target of target as well. this is a must in any current mmo, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Actually i do becouse it has everything and i mean EVERYTHING any other MMO has so bring it - No day/night cycle - No combat log - No UI customization - No swimming - No post-creation character customization - No appearance tab/outfit system - No environmental interaction (chairs, walls, doors, etc...) - No faction change - No in game events - No Macros That's just off the top of my head. You don't want to get into a features argument comparing the two, because quite frankly WoW currently has more - let alone compare to other MMO's out there. Now, you can argue that Bioware hasn't had the development time that Blizzard has and that is why they are missing features, but you certainly don't want to claim that Bioware has everything. Edited February 17, 2012 by Frostvein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knewt Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Actually i do becouse it has everything and i mean EVERYTHING any other MMO has so bring it Oh you poor, poor biodrone. This game is lacking a huge number of features that are in many other subscription based MMOs. At this point, a small company like Trion Worlds has built a more stable and feature rich MMO than Bioware. That's sad when you consider the resources and IP available to each company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzras Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Isn't this thread about reviews? If you want to discuss finances with EA, this thread is not the place. Positive and negative professional reviews please. Stay somewhat on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheisty Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 At this point, a small company like Trion Worlds has built a more stable and feature rich MMO than Bioware. That's sad when you consider the resources and IP available to each company. Too bad the game is boring. But you are free to play Rift, what are you doing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercia Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Combat log - Nothing to do with been an MMO or not its just information Customizable UI - Dosnt stop you from raiding/grouping/pvping Macro support - Raids have been cleared without them hergo you dont NEED them Addon support - See above Dual specs - You can respec at any time and again nothing to do with been an MMO Functional LFG tool - Its functional but basic and not a lot of people use it but i fail to see why this suddenly means you must stop finding a group by other means including SPEAKING TO OTHER HUMANS I could keep going, but I think this covers some of the biggest deficiencies. - No please i need more becouse the above is ******** Standing in the Fleet trying to get a group is boring. They have a LFG tool for Warzones, they should have it for PvE content too. - Quality of life nothing stopping you grouping in other ways again dosnt suddenly mean your the only one in game becouse you need to make a little effort to group and build relationships Added comments above Edited February 17, 2012 by Mercia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheisty Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Lol, just because you dont NEED them does not mean they are not features missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You can't make a statement like "This game has everything I mean everything any other MMO has" and then subsequently rule out everything that is brought up, because you specifically asked what it didn't have. You can say the game is playable without them, but that doesn't change the fact that they aren't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knewt Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Too bad the game is boring. But you are free to play Rift, what are you doing here? I'm trying to make SWTOR better. When I get bored with constantly re-rolling alts to see the stories, I want this game to have something to keep my attention. Instead of telling me to go play another game, look at my criticisms and respond to what I'm saying rather than the fact I am mentioning another game. It is sad that Bioware had so many resources and released a game with less features than Rift at launch. I want the Bioware story telling with better features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercia Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The argument is MMO features You cant give 1 MMO feature that dosnt exist here that does else where If you want to call them quality of life improvments that have nothing to do with been an MMO fair enough But these features are all SINGLE PLAYER quality of life improvements yes a LFG tool is multi player but its only intended purpose is to make a single player have an easier time to group which is ANTI MMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzras Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Wasn't the topic for Professional SWTOR reviews, good or bad? Start another thread for features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheisty Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You can't make a statement like "This game has everything I mean everything any other MMO has" and then subsequently rule out everything that is brought up, because you specifically asked what it didn't have. You can say the game is playable without them, but that doesn't change the fact that they aren't there. Yeah, I mean there are features already in that we dont necessarily NEED to win, but are nice to have. for example a Auction house. we dont NEED one, but its sure nice feature. Another missing feature, guild banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercia Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You can't make a statement like "This game has everything I mean everything any other MMO has" and then subsequently rule out everything that is brought up, because you specifically asked what it didn't have. You can say the game is playable without them, but that doesn't change the fact that they aren't there. I can because you bring nothing to bring to the table that cant be countered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The argument is MMO features You cant give 1 MMO feature that dosnt exist here that does else where ...what Ok, you have to be trolling. A combat log is a feature. Bioware doesn't have one. That is a missing feature. It doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercia Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 guild banks. Bingo +1 you have me there that is an MMO feature that is missing Not exactly game breaking and worth throwing a ***** fit for though am i rite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercia Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) ...what Ok, you have to be trolling. A combat log is a feature. Bioware doesn't have one. That is a missing feature. It doesn't exist. But what does a combat log have to do with an MMO or to put it another way what does not having one make this game less of an MMO ? It DOSNT Edited February 17, 2012 by Mercia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knewt Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Added comments above You're missing the point. Get your head out of the sand and start thinking. You asked what features are missing. I listed some. Whether you like them or they impact your personal gaming is irrelevant; they are still features. For any of those features I mentioned, please explain how they would negatively impact your gaming experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostvein Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Wasn't the topic for Professional SWTOR reviews, good or bad? Start another thread for features. For what point? You want links to posts from companies that may or may not be paid by EA and other software publishers that review a game in which most if not all of the reviewers didn't even get to the endgame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercia Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You're missing the point. Get your head out of the sand and start thinking. You asked what features are missing. I listed some. Whether you like them or they impact your personal gaming is irrelevant; they are still features. For any of those features I mentioned, please explain how they would negatively impact your gaming experience. MMO FEATURES not general game features that are part of a single players experiance Now can you get your head out the sand? MMO FEATURES MMO FEATURES MMO FEATURES MMO FEATURES MMO FEATURES It means features that matter to the MMO aspect of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyanzor Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Here ya go just had to google it so yeah.... http://www.gamezone.com/news/new-estimates-suggest-swtor-development-cost-200-million Again, nothing but, maybes, coulds and estimates. No one will ever know. We can only guess. Did you read any of the reviews I linked? I thought some were good reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisonsenvy Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Go play rift if you want to see what a real MMO is like for anyone to say this game has standard MMO features has never played another MMO besides this one or they haven't played one since 2004. So you fanboys can troll all you want but denying the obvious is just plain silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheisty Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 But what does a combat log have to do with an MMO or to put it another way what does not having one make this game less of an MMO ? It DOSNT Because some people like to dissect their damage, chose different specs based around the combat log and what it does. So yeah, its a feature to some people that love to min max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpholinium Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 But what does a combat log have to do with an MMO or to put it another way what does not having one make this game less of an MMO ? It DOSNT I agree. So much of the bile vented in this forum is the equivalent of buying a car, and then raging because the competitor's comes with heated seats standard, and the one you purchased doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnomz Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I would write a review of my experience with this game, but then I realise it's only going to be a waste of time. Even though I would mention both positive and negative points, the fanboys would only read the negative ones and nerd rage over it. Or just go tl;dr. This game for me... is the worst experience I have had in all my gaming life. The game itself is pretty average... 7/10 at most. The community is a 1/10, or 0/10 if you allow me. They don't take any criticizm and that may be one of the reasons why everything in this game is so broken. Bioware probably doesn't even know about any of the problems because fanboys deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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