archifikoss Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You won't. Ever. The second ingame credits can be proven to have a real world cash exchange rate value (as happens with ALL MMOs) then ingame gambling becomes subject to gambling laws from all over the world depending on where the user is playing from. Instead of buying chips in a casino or credits for an online slots site, it would be easy to convert RL cash into ingame credits, gamble ingame, then turn your winning credits back into RL cash. It's a legal minefield, and one that simply isn't worth the additional cost and hassle to implement Unfortunately, you have a very good point... However, maybe they could make it so that you could exchange Nar Shadaa commendations for casino markers, which you could use to possibly earn credits or whatever. Or they could make specialized casino commendations, obtainable from repeatable quests, which you could use - meaning you don't bet in game credits, but these commendations. And since they would be only obtained by doing dailies/heroics/whatever (they could even make new quests just for this), you wouldn't be able to get to an actual gold seller (credit seller - just said gold seller for distinctiveness) and spend RL cash to get these markers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puuk Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Star Wars: Fear and Loathing in Nar Shadaa No seriously, it would add some nice gaming experience. Both KoToR and Mass effect had some of this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delushin Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 ****! The first thing I belted out on TS was ... "What you can't gamble at the cas!" Hope they make it so soon! Would be one of those features that just makes the next level that much easier to reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achmedterror Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Functional casino's wont happen if they want to keep their age rating, adding gambling will force them to raise their age requirements thus losing a lot from younger players. Pretty sure a lot of rpgs have had functioning casinos in game on console and PC. idk what you are on about since it isnt real gambling since there is no real money involved. Plus I am pretty sure YOU aren't gambling anything since credits and virtual items are actually property of Bioware to begin with. So they would really just be neato side games to entertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achmedterror Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You won't. Ever. The second ingame credits can be proven to have a real world cash exchange rate value (as happens with ALL MMOs) then ingame gambling becomes subject to gambling laws from all over the world depending on where the user is playing from. Instead of buying chips in a casino or credits for an online slots site, it would be easy to convert RL cash into ingame credits, gamble ingame, then turn your winning credits back into RL cash. It's a legal minefield, and one that simply isn't worth the additional cost and hassle to implement Pretty sure a lot of poker sites now are using a POINT (kinda like credits huh) system to register for poker tournaments and if you win they give out PRIZES. It falls under prizes and raffle laws and circumvents all gambling laws to begin with. So I think your take on gambling laws and how they work is a bit off. Let's not mention that selling in game currency / cashing out is against terms of use and btw all your credits your in game items and your account is property of bioware. You own nothing. You rent time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtylobster Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I would be happy just to have a chair when watching the holos... No but seriously, I could imagine a in game casino with in game cash without limits... Texas hold em with millions in pot against other players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XionoraSoulfire Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I'm all for this! Just for the fun factor of it really, make games cost maybe 5-100 credits per turn so you can't make a buttload of money on it, and make the value purely the fun factor, with a very minor but very affortable and non-profitable fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achmedterror Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Just make the slots machines provide TOKEN, not credits... tokens are bound on pickup so no possibility of messing with RL issues. With that tokens, you can buy a variety of item (mostly social, I guess, but also something useful - not exceptional - for raid or pvp). And you are set. very cool idea. Make a seperate casino currency that is bound to you. id like to see more than just social items purchasable though. But yes this gets rid of any issues that could be brought up by nay sayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyersfan Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I'd like the casinos to be something rather than the nothing that they are now. I don't even think that you get rested XP in them. The two casinos also shouldn't be faction-locked. That's just ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakuBenjami Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Anyways, isn't the RE system our version of slots and/or craps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimorgs Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 This is an amazing idea. Would give us something to do in downtime though. Imagine the addicts though; "Give up my flashpoint spot guys, I'm on a winning streak!" I know I was hooked in FO: New Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpope Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 these are the types of post I like to see, I would love to play a game of pazzak or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsellusW Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) very cool idea. Make a seperate casino currency that is bound to you. id like to see more than just social items purchasable though. But yes this gets rid of any issues that could be brought up by nay sayers. Yes, the arguments against gambling in SWTOR are easily overcome. If the devs decide to do it, they'll find the safe way to do it, like BoP currency that you can get via daily quests. That would be a great side game, most like space combat. It could begin as a single-player-only game, and then evolve into some way of multiplayer (eg, pazaak tournaments or roulette). As rewards, I would like above all some special titles, mounts, companions, custom gear outfits, color crystals and stims. That would be GREAT. Edited February 7, 2012 by MarsellusW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyraTynomi Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 the pokemon games were marketed for kids as young as 7, and they had slot machines and casino games They don't have that anymore actually, it had to be changed, at least in the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakarris Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 It won't be affected by any kind of gambling laws, people. It's not real money. There are games everywhere for kids with fake gambling of fake money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extraboom Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Bump We really need something to keep people interested in the game (aside from adding more levels - blah). At least 3 "active" (level 50) players in my smallish guild have not logged in recently because they're bored. Where is it posted that legal issues are what's holding 'gambling' back, btw? I also played SWG & had fun burning credits on roulette. Whatever they do.. mini games of any sort (functional casinos or racing) would be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RycheMykola Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Its never going to happen, too many legal issues this would open up for EA. They would also lose there rating for the game and would be considered an "adult" game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnu Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 While I was exploring Nar Shaddaa the other day, I thought to myself, "Damn. I wish these were functioning casinos where I could gamble credits or play slot machines for cool gear and such. Hmmm..." So, now I'm wondering what others might think of this idea. Perhaps if enough others think this is a good idea, then maybe Bioware just might make one...post what you think. LOL that got me too. was running around looking for things to click on. yeah. awesome idea. But sadly, that is probably a feature that would take a fair bit of dev time and be something that nearly no-one ever uses. Maybe once or twice levelling and even then not for too long, but that would probably be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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