moosedog Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Because the pvp "daily" takes too long to finish, at about a 30% win ratio, with every third or so victory not counting because of the bug. It's taking 2+ hours to finish the "daily". I've found that my side loses the warzone almost every time we don't have a premade because the other side does have a premade. Before I hit 50 I loved pvping in swtor, but now it's becoming an exercise in frustration. I almost always have 300k plus healing(top heals) and about 40k damage on my IA op. Flame away, I'll keep alt tabbing out 'till i'm in a group with a premade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliddor Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 1. Pre-Mades should queue other pre-mades. 2. Deserters should get a debuff to prevent drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) I've found that my side loses the warzone almost every time You know what causes your side to lose? People leaving. Edited February 4, 2012 by EternalFinality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradigamer Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 1. Pre-Mades should queue other pre-mades. 2. Deserters should get a debuff to prevent drops. That's fine as long as it happens in that order. We'd need cross server warzones first, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I leave after we start getting creamed or if i'm sick of 7 huttball's in a row. Until they put in the ability to let us choose maps I will keep on leaving. Even WITH a deserted debuff (if they ever put one in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alundo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 You know what causes your side to lose? People leaving. And people leave because they lose so much, the cycle of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebby Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 let me know if it increases the old can't get credit for a win bug. interested to see because i dont leave warzones and rarely see this bug. I hope you can find someone to leach off of so you don't screw ur own teams up. Caz I will tell you, your not helping even when u stay. diaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 You know what causes your side to lose? People leaving. I have started leaving warzones that have 3+ people who don't even have sprint yet. And I could care less what the dude quoted above or others of his mindset thinks. On my server the imps are very unorganized and seem to know next to nothing about wz goals or even how to use their characters. So a loss is a loss, wether I sit around and wait for it or not. PVP dailies sometimes take TWO DAYS to complete. Its so frustrating that if I didn't enjoy my character so much I would roll on a different server. If you want to faceroll extremely unorganized and obtuse imps, roll a republic character on Ajunta Pall pvp/rp west coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosedog Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 You know what causes your side to lose? People leaving. When we are down 3-0 in huttball vs a premade, my leaving probably isn't going to change the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carebear Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 There's 0 incentive to stay in a losing Warzone post Valor rank 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosedog Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 let me know if it increases the old can't get credit for a win bug. interested to see because i dont leave warzones and rarely see this bug. I hope you can find someone to leach off of so you don't screw ur own teams up. Caz I will tell you, your not helping even when u stay. diaf I was getting that bug long long before i started leaving warzones, and let me tell you, I'm pretty sure usually being top heals does help my group when I stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledric Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 here is a thought... make some friends... make your own premade. Stop being a leach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knifewrench Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) People do many easily avoidable mistakes constantly that causes us to lose. And the disadvantage about being on the overpopulated side is that there's just no end to the ocean of stupid you have to paddle through because people get lazy with Ilum. People who make mistakes they should have rectified and removed from their system while they were doing 10-49. Passing. Watching for blue beams. Watching for door bombers. People still can't do this correctly in almost every game. And the Republic opposition stays roughly the same size. It's a much higher chance they do know how to play more effectively, especially in teamwork. As time goes on, the chances of winning when enemy healers are present is becoming more and more bleak because people just fumble around and spill their droolcups when trying to kill anything. You can tell them whom to attack, and the game even does, too. They still don't. Why stick around with that handicap when you can hope to catch another bus that won't have them wasting slots on your team? Edited February 4, 2012 by Knifewrench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosedog Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 here is a thought... make some friends... make your own premade. Stop being a leach. Here's a thought, queue up premades against other premades, let puggers pug against other puggers. Stop being a leach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiffyJr Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I have started leaving warzones that have 3+ people who don't even have sprint yet. And I could care less what the dude quoted above or others of his mindset thinks. On my server the imps are very unorganized and seem to know next to nothing about wz goals or even how to use their characters. So a loss is a loss, wether I sit around and wait for it or not. PVP dailies sometimes take TWO DAYS to complete. Its so frustrating that if I didn't enjoy my character so much I would roll on a different server. If you want to faceroll extremely unorganized and obtuse imps, roll a republic character on Ajunta Pall pvp/rp west coast. I was going to say how incredibly easy it is to get my dailies done and how I win > 60% of the games I play. I kept reading and realized that I'm on Sword of Ajunta Pall... I rerolled my 50 powertech to republic and have been ****** wz's ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belialle Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) here is a thought... make some friends... make your own premade. Stop being a leach. Here's a thought, queue up premades against other premades, let puggers pug against other puggers. Stop being a leach. Hey, here's a thought, ya'll. How about you spend less time ************ at each other about a stupid video game and more time learning how to spell simple words like "leech". Edited February 4, 2012 by belialle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaidax Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 There's 0 incentive to stay in a losing Warzone post Valor rank 60. This... I don't mind losing a game on equal terms, but I am not going to be a beating sack for some premade, when I solo queue! Premade vs Premade = OK Solo vs Solo = OK Premade vs Solo = ***, Bioware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledric Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Hey, here's a thought, ya'll. How about you spend less time ************ at each other about a stupid video game and more time learning how to spell simple words like "leech". oh noes, my spelling has been corected on the intrawebs! I must to go kill mysefl now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebby Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 spelling is a crutch btw.. Moose, you remind me of another moosie from war. Solo and selfish. In the end I assume that because every mmo i have played they have some sort of deserter debuff, your care free leeching will be over soon. 1 person doesn't win wz's. Newbie's need to learn too. Exploiting game mechanics, until you find a team worthy of you IS Leeching. When a fight happens, it is never equal. You are looking for the advantage, which means your winning WZ's without a challenge. You and players like you create problems in these games. Racing for a gear advantage. exploits and hacks. Despicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCrow Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 You know what causes your side to lose? People leaving. not really... 6 geared players even not premade just in full pvp gear will destroy totally every even premade not geared team... I have seen such examples.... not so long ago there was 6 players from one guild and what? all of them had hp around 12k-14k ****** gear and we loose 6:0 ..standard result at wz's when you fight agains team where is at least 4-5 players with gear. as many players before noticed there si too huge gap in gear between starters gear and champion not mention about battlemaster. and ... the best way to save the time is actually quit wz when you see hp of players....because developer forgot about such basic feature like some "deserter debuff" which is in any other mmos.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthLightSide Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 spelling is a crutch btw.. Moose, you remind me of another moosie from war. Solo and selfish. In the end I assume that because every mmo i have played they have some sort of deserter debuff, your care free leeching will be over soon. 1 person doesn't win wz's. Newbie's need to learn too. Exploiting game mechanics, until you find a team worthy of you IS Leeching. When a fight happens, it is never equal. You are looking for the advantage, which means your winning WZ's without a challenge. You and players like you create problems in these games. Racing for a gear advantage. exploits and hacks. Despicable. "DE-SPIC-ABLE!" you just got PWNED OP and anyone who plays/thinks as you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaotc Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I dont give a **** what anybody else thinks about my leaving a warzone or what bioware might try and do to prevent it, i cant stand huttball yet i'm i'm consistantly forced into games. Not to mention the fact that many teams i've been part of do not play as a team. Getting mobbed by enemy players without any support from your own team mates makes the game point less and so i'm happy to leave them to their failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthiel Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 spelling is a crutch btw.. Moose, you remind me of another moosie from war. Solo and selfish. In the end I assume that because every mmo i have played they have some sort of deserter debuff, your care free leeching will be over soon. 1 person doesn't win wz's. Newbie's need to learn too. Exploiting game mechanics, until you find a team worthy of you IS Leeching. When a fight happens, it is never equal. You are looking for the advantage, which means your winning WZ's without a challenge. You and players like you create problems in these games. Racing for a gear advantage. exploits and hacks. Despicable. how is it leeching? how in any other way other than your perception is looking for a team as good as you leeching i figured the leeches were the 4 pre lev 25's literally leeching from the players with enough skills to compete with a premade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasstavad Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 how is it leeching? how in any other way other than your perception is looking for a team as good as you leeching i figured the leeches were the 4 pre lev 25's literally leeching from the players with enough skills to compete with a premade. Why would valor rank have anything do with skill or gear? I've seen a few War Lords with crap gear (ilum campers, rofl) and I've seen Glads with full sets of Champion. All valor ranks mean are time invested and a potential to have gear (based on RNG). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nastynas Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Somebody is doing it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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