Ruins Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 On my server, in the 10-49 bracket, there is one specific fellow who constantly runs out of the spawn and just stands there, doesn't attack or advance very far, and only moves if he dies, and that is to return to his previous spot. Not only is he getting valor and Warzone coms from the loss or the win, hes also getting credits and even experience, for just standing there, doing nothing. One day while doing the pvp daily, I finally had enough of this guy 'farming' the warzones, so I wrote a Report Player ticket describing my frustrations with this individual, and eventually got this response: http://i.imgur.com/LEs6g.jpg So apparently we can farm the Warzones all we want, who cares about playing them, we may get 'less experience or credits', but hey, if you're allowed to be afk, what does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContrailNZ Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 He is just role playing an NPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seductivpancakes Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Bioware only cares if that player is using bad words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killabee Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 If he is a Scoundrel he might be waiting for the monent he has a chance to kill someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaridon Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 SWEET Free commendations, experience, money... and I don't have to do a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupra Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 xcuse me sir but he pays the same amount as you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belialle Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) xcuse me sir but he pays the same amount as you AFKers are toxic to the community. They make the game less enjoyable for the people who are forced to group with them. This is why Blizzard and other game companies forbid this type of behavior and have systems in place to discourage it. Edited February 4, 2012 by belialle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesetoe Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 AFKers are toxic to the community. They make the game less enjoyable for the people who are forced to group with them. This is why Blizzard and other game companies forbid this type of behavior and have systems in place to discourage it. Or they could just allow 8 man premades and stop forcing people to be grouped with people they really don't want to be grouped with. It would also get rid of the rediculous 5v8 matches that are currently being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krondorf Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Would be cool to have a window in the pvp queue, where you can place a name of a person that you wish to never be grouped together with in warzones. Soon afterwards these leechers will realize that they rarely find groups, and will have to make an alt and earn the respect to not be avoided from warzones. Edited February 4, 2012 by Krondorf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belialle Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Or they could just allow 8 man premades and stop forcing people to be grouped with people they really don't want to be grouped with. It would also get rid of the rediculous 5v8 matches that are currently being made. This isn't going to stop people from AFKing. Dream on. I can agree with you that the things you mentioned are problematic, but they are not directly related to the matter at hand. As far as I'm concerned, AFKing is just another form of cheating. If BW actually condones this behavior, it severely shakes my faith in them. I feel annoyed and disgruntled just thinking about it. If what the OP says is true, this is a very good reason for me to consider unsubscribing. Same thing goes for win trading in Illum. These are serious issues to me. If BW doesn't take them seriously, it's hard for me to take BW seriously. @Krondorf: I like the way you think. I would love to see some actual social consequences for leechers and people who engage in other forms of general ******tery. It would be nice if we had some incentives to encourage these kids to play well with others. Edited February 4, 2012 by belialle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaridon Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I also agree, it's making me consider unsubscribing as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMOgamer Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 There is an AFKer on our server who has been doing it for a few weeks at least (since we first noticed him) and he claims it isn't against the rules . Since he has been reported many times and nothing changed, clearly Bioware doesn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacleface Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 He is just role playing an NPC. Priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDrummer Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 He is just role playing an NPC. Genious hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistrfantasy Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I know an afker who afk'd his way to BM. The problem w/ the current pvp reward system is: 1. Medals can be farmed, DPS classes who have no business tanking or healing can easily get those medals, while REAL healers have to struggle to get more then 5. 2. The valor rewards per match far exceed the valor rewards per medal, making afk'ing a very viable strategy to reach BM. While they get fewer commendations, commendations aren't as valuable as valor. 3. The game's afk detection system is terrible. Not only can it be reset on some spawning areas, but it doesn't detect the real afkers on the battlefield. I would suggest that if you know of one of these AFK people, is to look for them and just kill them. The common afk locations are not that hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzyblade Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 They don't need to add in any gameplay changes to prevent people from AFKing, they don't need better detection or anything like that. What they DO need to do, is to make it against the rules as it's basically ruining other players' experiences by making the matches 7 vs 8. That's a 12.5% decrease of your team's potential ability. And it is completely unacceptable for them to just ignore this and say "they get less credits, experience etc.", sure, they get less, but they could pretty much be sitting there playing their xbox or whatever, queue for a warzone, then put themselves in an obscure corner which nobody ever goes to and AFK for 10 minutes. It requires very little effort to do this, and the preventative measures are virtually useless. If they're not going to make it against the rules, and actually do something when people report them, at least make it so you can vote to kick people out of warzones if there's a majority vote, like at least 3/4 of the team. If something actually does get done about this, just please don't make it something useless and ineffective like adding in a message on the loading screen telling people they get less things if they afk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takodo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 At level 50 and 49 valar people have told me this when I **** about them being AFK. "I got 50 now I need 10 more levels of valar before I can even compete so ****." Blame the system IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzyblade Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 At level 50 and 49 valar people have told me this when I **** about them being AFK. "I got 50 now I need 10 more levels of valar before I can even compete so ****." Blame the system IMO They're still ruining the game for other people who are actually trying to play. And while the gear bonus is quite significant, you still earn far, far more commendations and valor if you compete, even if you do die constantly. I never had a problem with not being geared enough to do PvP at 50, even when I had no PvP gear I was still useful, it's not like they have triple your health and damage. The system isn't exactly fantastic, but AFKing in warzones because you get killed by people in battlemaster gear is not helping in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namoni Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well I have reported people for this and the response I got is that Bioware does take Failing to Participate in a Warzone very seriously and those players would be investigated, just like all the Illum Gold Farmers I have reported (lvl 11-27) who are up on Illum every darn day. Yet several days and even a week or two later there they are doing it all again. With AFK'ers what I do now is /say AFK'er here and drag the opposing team to them (provided I live) and let them kill the person. One in particular on my server even has the gaul to scream at us for losing a turret whilst he is afk'ing and calls everyone a nub. Well there is a thing called karma and I do hope it hits him and other AFKers right in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takodo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 The entire system if you have the time/care enough to pick it a part, is a broken PvP system... I spent my time at my keyboard playing and got let’s say 80 Valar. That AFK guy most likely got 40-70. How broken is that. (These are just random numbers but they get decent valar, coms, xp (under 50), and credits for AFK'ing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takodo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Karma and SWTOR do not make a good combo. I know AFK'ers on my server who made rank 60 Valar from 50 AFK and still are playing.... Hope karma hurry's up. Sadly I doubt it will at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaridon Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Hey where's the AFK'rs post for reply on this topic... OH right they don't give a ****, kinda reminds me of three other organizations... kinda reminds me why I even bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roak Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 working as intended. in mmolite you just need to be logged on to earn rewards, you do not have any responsibility to actually "play" the game, turning up is enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbitfoot Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Yea Bio Wear please fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaridon Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Sure would be nice to post a POLL option1 - can wait for content please fix problems now option2 - can't wait for content willing to accept problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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