DannyInternets Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Again, drivers are not programs, they're.. wait for it... DRIVERS! RivaTuner is not a driver. Please don't post in this thread if you're completely ignorant to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazmtyh Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Please feel free to prove this statement by downloading RivaTuner and overclocking your GPU by 500%. TOR can not OC your GPU. But nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInternets Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) TOR can not OC your GPU. But nice try. I didn't say it did. Reading is hard, right? Stay in school, kid. Edited January 20, 2012 by DannyInternets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykologist Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 RivaTuner is not a driver. Please don't post in this thread if you're completely ignorant to the topic. RivaTuner is a complete powerful tweaking environment, providing you everything you may need to tune NVIDIA GPU based display adapters. The widest driver-level Direct3D / OpenGL and system tuning options, flexible profiling system allowing to make custom settings on per-application basis, both driver-level and low-level hardware access modes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Please feel free to prove this statement by downloading RivaTuner and overclocking your GPU by 500%. Protip: RivaTuner won't overclock your GPU .... UNLESS you tell it to. That would then be user error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabisco_DING Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 TOR can not OC your GPU. But nice try. Logic is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanzoV Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) If potato's give you gas all the time, wouldn't you stop eating potatos? Umm, NO! I love potatoes, and I figure my gas is really other people's problem. Everyone likes their own blend. Edited January 20, 2012 by HanzoV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amonet Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hmm, actually there might be something to this. Ever since 1.1 ive noticed that my video card temperatures have been running steadily at 81C whereas pre patch it was usually around 69-71. So something HAS in fact changed in 1.1 that is making the GPU work harder than before. Did they not add an Anti-Aliasing option to the graphic menu in 1.1? Or am i completely bonkers? And just FYI my ambient room temperature has been the same as always, im running no additional apps in the background while playing etc. But the rise in normal running temps from 70C to 80C while playing SWTOR is there nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInternets Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) RivaTuner is a complete powerful tweaking environment, providing you everything you may need to tune NVIDIA GPU based display adapters. The widest driver-level Direct3D / OpenGL and system tuning options, flexible profiling system allowing to make custom settings on per-application basis, both driver-level and low-level hardware access modes Yes, thank you for proving my point. RivaTuner is third party software that allows driver-level tweaking. PS - Games are also software that allow driver-level tweaking. EDIT: typo Edited January 20, 2012 by DannyInternets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Please don't post in this thread if you're completely ignorant to the topic. Best irony I have seen in two weeks. LOLz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theborch Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Umm, NO! I love potatoes, and I figure my gas is really other people's problem. Everyone likes their own blend. hahaha. finally some truth on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInternets Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Best irony I have seen in two weeks. LOLz Point to one incorrect statement I've made in this thead. I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceasaigh Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 You know the scary part is people actually believe that software causes hardware damage. Not playing the game or running the software for hours on end with inefficiency hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 RivaTuner is not a driver. Please don't post in this thread if you're completely ignorant to the topic. I was mimicking your posting style. Ya know, ignorant, know it all and stubborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hmm, actually there might be something to this. Ever since 1.1 ive noticed that my video card temperatures have been running steadily at 81C whereas pre patch it was usually around 69-71. So something HAS in fact changed in 1.1 that is making the GPU work harder than before. Did they not add an Anti-Aliasing option to the graphic menu in 1.1? Or am i completely bonkers? And just FYI my ambient room temperature has been the same as always, im running no additional apps in the background while playing etc. But the rise in normal running temps from 70C to 80C while playing SWTOR is there nonetheless. My GPU consistently run about 4 degrees C cooler after patch 1.1 The 1.1 client also reset all the settings, so unless you have your settings reset to exactly what they were before the patch, you cannot compare GPU temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisar Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 flagged for trolling. have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInternets Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I was mimicking your posting style. Ya know, ignorant, know it all and stubborn. Perhaps you should have tried to mimic it by actually being, you know, correct. You know, instead of wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Point to one incorrect statement I've made in this thead. I'll wait. This statement is a fallacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInternets Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) This statement is a fallacy. Yeah, that word doesn't mean what you think it means. Perhaps you should consult Google or a dictionary before you further embarrass yourself here. Edited January 20, 2012 by DannyInternets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yeah, that word doesn't mean what you think it means. Perhaps you should consult Google or a dictionary before you further embarrass yourself here. This is recokulous! You're trying to besmirchify my attitudity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellthar Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I don't see how SWTOR could damage a video card, since the game does not interface directly with the video card. The driver interfaces with it, and the game cannot tell the card to do something outside of what the driver stipulates (the user can alter what the driver stipulates and do damage however). The game can push the card to its limits, however, and this is normal behavior. In fact, it is considered optimal if your gpu is running at 99-100% utilization, as this will give you the best fps you can achieve on your computer. It is possible the game was not pushing the cards very hard before (TOR is very cpu limited), and perhaps 1.1 introduced something that began to push the cards hard (AA anyone?) and therefore started getting the cards up high in utilization (which translates to heat). In this case, a card that is OC'd or has some other issue might fail. A card that has no issue will do just fine. This type of failure is not the games fault in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunchaBoes Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 1.1: Anti-Aliasing is auto-turned on for most computers, and it auto sets various cards to high settings that shouldn't be. Set your settings down to appropriate levels. AA is a good thing, but it can generate more heat on your card. To those overclocking your GPU, the best advice i can say is, don't do it unless you know what you're doing and you have a sufficient cooling system inside of your case, along with an adequate power supply. If you don't know, you probably shouldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sykologist Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yeah, that word doesn't mean what you think it means. Perhaps you should consult Google or a dictionary before you further embarrass yourself here. The cards are meant to run and the drivers should have thresholds built in. Unless you are voiding the warranty in some way, it's the manufacturer's fault. Unless new TOS state that you need to be constantly monitoring your card and your case temps need to be at X temp or lower. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyInternets Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) The cards are meant to run and the drivers should have thresholds built in. Unless you are voiding the warranty in some way, it's the manufacturer's fault. Unless new TOS state that you need to be constantly monitoring your card and your case temps need to be at X temp or lower. /thread OK, that's nice and all but how is it relevant to anything I've said? All I did was refute the (incorrect) assertion that third party software can't cause a graphics card to malfunction. I've never claimed that SWTOR is responsible for any hardware failures, though it wouldn't be the first game to cause such problems (the original FEAR game actually caused a slew of overheating problems with graphics cards due to disabling driver-level protections). Edited January 20, 2012 by DannyInternets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QDMcGraw Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Education is the process of unlearning what you know to be true. ~Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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