Mandrax Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) So now we have a maintenance session scheduled from between 2pm and 6pm GMT, or 6pm and 10pm in some EU parts of the EU. Yes I know there are people exploiting the game, yes I know a patch is required, but it is still unacceptable that patching or maintenance is done during PRIME TIME. So BioWare releases a patch that totally screws Ilum, then they decide to release a patch at a time that once again inconveniences the EU the most. Sorry, but this has gone beyond a joke. Edited January 19, 2012 by Mandrax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khelien Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 which would require either seperate clients, or completely disabling character creation on whatever servers are up while the others are down. Rift. Go google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Indomitus Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Sorry, but this has gone beyond a joke. We need to make it more expensive for them to keep the current system, in order to change. Reduce your sub time (if it's over a month) to 1 month or unsub with reason: "EU maintenance times". It's EA, it's the only way they will change the system, if it's more expensive for them to keep it (by losing subs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hages Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) All that bioware has to do is to compremice between eu and the us...If they will make the maintenance 4 hours earlyer then nobody has major issues. Now they just give the Us players the best part..let just split the cake fairly!!! Edited January 19, 2012 by hages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralesh Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 which would require either seperate clients, or completely disabling character creation on whatever servers are up while the others are down. I am going to assume you have never played another MMO, so will say that the following games have seperate maintenance times (that I know of): EverquestEverquest 2LoTROWoWRift So why can't Bioware manage it. We already have gameservers in Ireland so it's not a timezone thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clova Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 All that bioware has to do is to compremice between eu and the us...If they will make the maintenance 4 hours earlyer then nobody has major issues. Now they just give the Us players the best part..let just split the cace fairly!!! so instead of 2am central they should push it back to 10pm? Thats even worse! I feel for the EU people, but that would cancel out all 4 timezones in the continental US's prime time. unless you mean tommorow's mait, in which yeah, i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clova Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) I am going to assume you have never played another MMO, so will say that the following games have seperate maintenance times (that I know of): EverquestEverquest 2LoTROWoWRift So why can't Bioware manage it. We already have gameservers in Ireland so it's not a timezone thing. I've played WoW, LoTRO, EQ 1 and 2. The thing is, NA accounts cannot play on EU servers and vice versa. Thats not the same here. Edited January 19, 2012 by Clova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralesh Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 so instead of 2am central they should push it back to 10pm? Thats even worse! I feel for the EU people, but that would cancel out all 4 timezones in the continental US's prime time. unless you mean tommorow's mait, in which yeah, i agree. As the Americans (in the main) that come here sying get a life blah blah, then I'm sure they won't complain about losing their gametime. So that's alright then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I really don't understand all these people that think it'd be some massive technical undertaking to have the different servers brought down at different times. As has been mentioned time and time again, a bunch of first timers in Trion can manage to do it, so and industry behemoth in EA should be able to. As for US players flooding to EU servers (why would they? They're still getting their patches and maintenance at the same time, their actual slowest time) then good! If they want to come play here, we might have some people on the servers for a change, instead of the pathetically few you come across on our lonely, lonely travels in the instanced world that Bioware have created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clova Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 As the Americans (in the main) that come here sying get a life blah blah, then I'm sure they won't complain about losing their gametime. So that's alright then. Not really. Theres a big difference between 8-11pm prime time start and a 10am start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrax Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 We need to make it more expensive for them to keep the current system, in order to change. Reduce your sub time (if it's over a month) to 1 month or unsub with reason: "EU maintenance times". It's EA, it's the only way they will change the system, if it's more expensive for them to keep it (by losing subs). Already done it, I'm away for a few days so can't play anyway so thought it wasn't worth resubbing until I get back. I can't see it making a difference though. It seems as though they really aren't bothered. With all the posts about it, they go and schedule maintenance during prime time in parts of Europe. They really don't give a stuff and I don't see them ever changing their policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralesh Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I've played WoW, LoTRO, EQ 1 and 2. The thing is, NA accounts cannot play on EU servers and vice versa. Thats not the same here. I kow in EQ2 and EQ they can play on all servers. So it's still not a logistical problem but a definative choice by a developer to exclude and penalise portions of the community. I understand most Americans have an issue believing anything exists East of New York, but there's a whole world out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffy Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I've played WoW, LoTRO, EQ 1 and 2. The thing is, NA accounts cannot play on EU servers and vice versa. Thats not the same here. That is a bold faced lie. You can most certainly play on US or the two EU servers in EQ2 by selecting which region you want on the launcher. If you want to back up your argument, don't resort to lying to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khelien Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I've played WoW, LoTRO, EQ 1 and 2. The thing is, NA accounts cannot play on EU servers and vice versa. Thats not the same here. Again - Rift. Seriously go google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clova Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I kow in EQ2 and EQ they can play on all servers. So it's still not a logistical problem but a definative choice by a developer to exclude and penalise portions of the community. I understand most Americans have an issue believing anything exists East of New York, but there's a whole world out there. I NEVER said ANYTHING about Americans. In fact, when they moved up the start time to 8am central for tommorow, I was just as irritated for EU ebcause i know that goes into their prime time. I know you like to sterotype, but a lot of us yanks are not selfish primadonnas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrax Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Not really. Theres a big difference between 8-11pm prime time start and a 10am start. Indeed there is, they are taking the piss with this latest session. Edited January 19, 2012 by Mandrax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Indomitus Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) So why can't Bioware manage it. Because it's EA, not Bioware. btw the message for maintenance atm reads "16:00 to 20:00" for where I live, the hours I CAN play is usually 16:00 to 23:00 my time... nice lol. If that's not PRIME time, what is it? Edited January 19, 2012 by Lord_Indomitus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paspinall Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 so instead of 2am central they should push it back to 10pm? Thats even worse! I feel for the EU people, but that would cancel out all 4 timezones in the continental US's prime time. unless you mean tommorow's mait, in which yeah, i agree. What instead of cancelling out all four European ones instead. Obviously in your opinion we dont count. What they at least should have done is kept it at the 11 until 4GMT they had originally stated, its bad enough as it still kills hours of prime time for the far side of europe but at least there was still some of it left for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clova Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) That is a bold faced lie. You can most certainly play on US or the two EU servers in EQ2 by selecting which region you want on the launcher. If you want to back up your argument, don't resort to lying to do so. Fine, well i know WoW works differently. Probably because it needs to support such a large and global pop. I appologise for generalizing that to ALL MMO's then. In fact, if i got anything wrong, Im sorry. Guess I got too used to WoW's systems. Edited January 19, 2012 by Clova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralesh Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 That is a bold faced lie. You can most certainly play on US or the two EU servers in EQ2 by selecting which region you want on the launcher. If you want to back up your argument, don't resort to lying to do so. I know, I used to runa West Coast US guild in EQ for quite a while. I live in UK but work weird hours, so a 7pm PST raid time was actually good But now I work late evenings in the UK so my prime time is during the day here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clova Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Indeed there is, they are taking the piss with this latest session. read my above post. I KNEW that already, AND Im irritated at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralesh Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Because it's EA, not Bioware. Bioware are the developers, EA are just distrbutors. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralesh Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I NEVER said ANYTHING about Americans. In fact, when they moved up the start time to 8am central for tommorow, I was just as irritated for EU ebcause i know that goes into their prime time. I know you like to sterotype, but a lot of us yanks are not selfish primadonnas. That's why I said "most", certainly in this thread at any rate. But my apologies if you felt I included you in that stereotype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Indomitus Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Fine, well i know WoW works differently. Probably because it needs to support such a large and global pop. Look I am not a WoW fan boy, but you CAN'T compare the support of Blizzard with EA or Bioware. I have a friend working for Blizzard, you just CAN'T... those guys are professional and take support seriously and spend a lot of cash for it, because they know it brings them subs. EA is cheap, as simple as that, this is why we don;t have different maintenance times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clova Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 That's why I said "most", certainly in this thread at any rate. But my apologies if you felt I included you in that stereotype. Well, being ganged up on by 3 EUs that are rightfully irritated but seemingly outsourcing their anger on me, who isnt even one of those who says "Its EU, dont care"... GAH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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