Omnitheo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Please explain the difference to me between Star Trek villain and Star Wars villain? I enjoy both series, but the closest thing to the Vong in ST were species 8974, and there's still very little in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haajib Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Its true their scout probes are still in the outer edge of the galaxy, however their main armada, and capitol ships are still drifting in dark space, and will do so for another 3000 years. And their coral probes aint designed for combat, and would not pose any threat, they even said in Kotor that the vong ship escaped once it was detected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketchum Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Of the NJO I've only read the very first book. I attempted to read the second one but it bored me to the point where I was falling asleep reading it in the middle of school. I never continued past there. The Yuuzhan Vong, however, were a fascinating species. I would have loved to continue reading about them, despite my knowledge of them. I think it would be cool to see them in this game, on a large or small scale. There is every excuse to include them in this game; not EVERY occurrence in the galaxy has to be recorded, and even if it is, this game is set three thousand years before they invaded the galaxy. The simple truth is it's impossible for records from such an extended period of time to be 100% complete. Everything and anything could have happened, including Palpy dumping the old Republic records just for good measure- which is solidly possible. The point is that in this time period, it's very easy to get away with things like this, and if BioWare had any intention of bringing the Vong into the picture, they can very well get away with it. I certainly hope they bring them in, for an expansion, for an operation, for a flashpoint, ANYTHING would do. They're too good of an opportunity to pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moiraesfate Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I know the Yuuzhan Vong havent been to this galaxy yet in EU, but maybe they did and there is no record of it or something. Either way that would be a sweet expansion dont you guys think? No, I hope they never do that. Stick to canon, and keep them for later in the series like they're supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWRapter Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 they were here then they were banashed from the galaxy by the planet they lived on and removed from the force more or less then they returned in the vong wars the books explain it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDTC Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 some stories have already been told. the vong is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarylMusashi Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I hope they don't use the Borg ripoff Vong in any way in this game. That blight is why I hate the EU stuff for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProReo Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I would love to see Yuuzhan-Vong in TOR, but as others have pointed out, intercepting a Scout ship (Yorik-et) and defeating it would have been allright, we already know Canderous Ordo encountered one during his days of fighting closer to the galaxy's edge, so it's perfectly possible for encounters like that. I really loved the concept for Yuuzhan-Vong. I don't care that they're perfect Jedi enemy or something, their biotechnology, religion, rituals and the way they think are really interesting to me. It's a completely new and unknown threat to the New Republic and the Jedi, and this makes it really interesting to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaunyeh Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I really loved the concept for Yuuzhan-Vong. I don't care that they're perfect Jedi enemy or something, their biotechnology, religion, rituals and the way they think are really interesting to me. It's a completely new and unknown threat to the New Republic and the Jedi, and this makes it really interesting to me. What I hate about the YV is that Star Wars already had several species that were nearly identical to the YV, yet they still felt the need to make up something new. Just how many religious, biotechnology-wielding invaders from beyond the galaxy can one setting really support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminminU Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I know the Yuuzhan Vong havent been to this galaxy yet in EU, but maybe they did and there is no record of it or something. Either way that would be a sweet expansion dont you guys think? Those things are the main reason why i disregard anything past return of the jedi, no species should be outside the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKMaster Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 No, I hope they never do that. Stick to canon, and keep them for later in the series like they're supposed to be. Canon-wise ppl came into contact with thier scout ships around the current game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDeschain Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I loved the NJO. Started off really badly, but got absolutely amazing 4-5 books in, and became one of the best stories in the EU in my opinion. Agree 100% I LOVED the NJO!! So epic the Vong were a terrifying enemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikModi Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I could see them using the Vong for like, a single Flashpoint, leaving it very mysterious in-game who they are, what they want, etc. A sort of "who was that masked man" kinda thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonimator Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 What I hate about the YV is that Star Wars already had several species that were nearly identical to the YV, yet they still felt the need to make up something new. Just how many religious, biotechnology-wielding invaders from beyond the galaxy can one setting really support? The Ssi-ruuk weren't all that great, though. And their 'biotech' was significantly different from the Vong's. They were kinda like the seed idea that led to the Yuuzhan Vong, similar to the parasitic bugs from the first season or two of Star Trek:TNG that were supposed to be advance scouts for an insectoid species that was ultimately nixed and became the Borg. What other species were similar? You said 'several', but Ssi-ruuk is all that springs to mind from before NJO began. The Yevetha maybe? I never read the stuff with them in it, but they seem to be big on religious fanaticism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikModi Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I actually really liked the Ssi-ruuk, but describing them as having "biotechnology?" They were the complete OPPOSITE of biotech. They used the life energies and consciousness of a living being to power droids and equipment, they had nothing to do with genetic engineering or "breeding" creatures to fulfill needs. Also, they weren't really from "beyond the galaxy." Their home is in a star cluster that exists just on the fringe of the Star Wars galaxy, so not "technically" extragalactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_JediKnight Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I liked the Vong but agree that they shouldn't appear this far back in any real capacity, it would be too hard to explain how the rest of the galaxy completely forgets all about them later. As for the Ssi-Ruuk or Yevetha...yes to the Yevetha as they were extremely interesting and would make a great addition as long as they were kept in a small role and weren't made main antagonists...this point in history should still mainly be about jedi vs. sith. No to the Ssi-Ruuk, the book was ok but as far as the species go...big dinosaurs toting guns just doesn't do it for me and doesn't really seem truly part of the SW universe IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undeadsithdread Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 i like how people who qq about vong entirly forget about Rakata and how they make the sith look like bunch of cavemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonimator Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I actually really liked the Ssi-ruuk, but describing them as having "biotechnology?" They were the complete OPPOSITE of biotech. They used the life energies and consciousness of a living being to power droids and equipment, they had nothing to do with genetic engineering or "breeding" creatures to fulfill needs. Also, they weren't really from "beyond the galaxy." Their home is in a star cluster that exists just on the fringe of the Star Wars galaxy, so not "technically" extragalactic. Then I'm stumped. I agree with what you say about their tech and location, of course, but aside from them and perhaps the Yevetha (avoided BFC because I knew the "Luke's search for his mom" thing would be a wild goose chase) I can't think of any species that even comes close to the Yuuzhan Vong with their religion-based society and biotech, let alone being extragalactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnarchySolo Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 hear hear, the Yuuzhan Vong are an excellent suggestion (you have my vote!) might be an idea to suggest Zonama sekot or Yuuzhan'tar when you answer this weeks question, "What planet in the Star Wars universe do you want to see in Star Wars: The Old Republic that is not currently in the game?" http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=441841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The continuity of the EU would be shattered if the Republic and Sith Empire fought and defeated the Vong. No one in the books has ever seen of heard of the Vong, but we do know that they came to the galaxy before; as mentioned in KOTOR. I don't like the Vong anyway so I don't want to see them in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefdano Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The continuity of the EU would be shattered if the Republic and Sith Empire fought and defeated the Vong. No one in the books has ever seen of heard of the Vong, but we do know that they came to the galaxy before; as mentioned in KOTOR. I don't like the Vong anyway so I don't want to see them in this game. People had "seen" them, but either they didnt survive or they didnt know what they were seeing, like a flying rock. And jedi had visions of them, but not what they were So yeah, no one knew what they were with one exception: Palpatine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniperrecon Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 If they appear in the game, and your characters become entangled with them...then knowledge of their existance would pre-date when they were discovered in the books. Not really. If you think about it , its noted that during the war alot of records on both sides were destroyed or lost. It could be possible for us to encounter them and records of the encounter to get lost at a later date and those that had contact forgot , were killed or thought of the encounter as a mere side effect of the other sides research into other forms of combat during the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniperrecon Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'd like to see a flash point where a scouting ship is intercepted and you defeat them, sure... But that's about it. Id be more curious to see a whole new species introduced that never made it out of this time period for whatever reason... Or perhaps something like Caverns of Time from WoW where we can visit different time periods in star wars lore for a flash point, operation or warzone! No clue how to implement time travel without it being ridiculous though Now there is an idea. Flowwalking like Jacen did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellvaan Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Greetings everyone! Since we have an active thread regarding this topic and in the interest of consolidating discussion, we are going to close this thread and ask that you please continue this discussion here: How long until Yuuzhan Vong? Thank you for your understanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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