Mystprime Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Well, for one thing, premade vs premade bracket never stopped WoW premades from destroying us in the pug bracket. I lost over %90 of my games in WoW no matter what bracket I was in and no matter what faction I played. I only lose about %60-%70 of my games in SWTOR. That alone makes SWTOR pvp better than WoW pvp. Your 60%-70% is already better than mine. I would say I win a hell of a lot more in WoW than SWTOR. SWTOR solely relies on your server. So maybe you're a bit luckier, but not everyone, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagliance Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 bit early to be judging... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonduitX Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Because for me and many other people not having cross-server queues trumps everything else. Now if TOR introduced cross-server for PvP then I'd say WoW PvP was better. The OP wasn't specific though, he just asked which we thought was better. He didn't ask for example, "which do you find more responsive?"So... you like playing Huttball vs your own faction 3/4 of the time? Because that is whats going on for Imperials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradigamer Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Actually you can't premade against a pug in a 15-40 man BG. If you REALLY lost 90% of your games your either just lying or just a complete fail. Yes you can, there's an addon that queues as many people as want to play. And I wasn't rude in any way to you or anyone else in this thread, so don't be rude to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ursusarctus Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 WoW is far superior even in its current state. For starters it has fully working mechanics along with combat logs Oo Furthemore it hasnt got any class that will 3 shot another equally lvl and gear class ( see operative scoundrel) It hasnt got broken skills like biohem its farm more bal;ance in top tier skill It has far better design battlegrounds On top of that it has unparalleled combat fluidity , and no lag which swtor lacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonduitX Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Yes you can, there's an addon that queues as many people as want to play. And I wasn't rude in any way to you or anyone else in this thread, so don't be rude to me.Lol, sorry, I guess you answered my question. Edited January 12, 2012 by KonduitX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystprime Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) WoW is far superior even in its current state. For starters it has fully working mechanics along with combat logs Oo Furthemore it hasnt got any class that will 3 shot another equally lvl and gear class ( see operative scoundrel) It hasnt got broken skills like biohem its farm more bal;ance in top tier skill It has far better design battlegrounds On top of that it has unparalleled combat fluidity , and no lag which swtor lacks At 49, I was being two shotted (and I had over 12k health). This is a big problem, thank you for putting this!<3 The health to damage ratio is just... I don't know. Bad in some cases. Now some people seem to be hard to take down, but then again, this might just be the imbalance in classes/specs right now. Edited January 12, 2012 by Mystprime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafikk Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 100% disagree ... WoW's pvp is wretched, I'm having a fun with TORs pvp. Sure there are issues that need to be ironed out and I would like to see them merge some of the lighter servers together to prevent x-server pvp. Plus, I believe Bioware will take making this game better a higher priority than Blizzard ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zibit Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 bit early to be judging... ^ Way too early. Give it some time, let the Devs tweak some things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draccman Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Swtor pvp has a much lower skillcap. lolautoface, lol no macros, lolcrappyinterrupts etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZNICK Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Let's face it... the game's been out A MONTH. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jederix Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Twink domination isn't a factor when you have level 50's queueing with level 10's. This whole argument is flawed bro. They change it into brackets and you can bet your *** that it will quickly become a factor. One thing is for certain in MMO PvP, people are always looking for the easiest way to faceroll the competition, then run to the forums and complain when they can't. Bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elazul Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 WoW is far superior even in its current state. For starters it has fully working mechanics along with combat logs Oo Furthemore it hasnt got any class that will 3 shot another equally lvl and gear class ( see operative scoundrel) It hasnt got broken skills like biohem its far more balanced in top tier skill It has far better design battlegrounds On top of that it has unparalleled combat fluidity , and no lag which swtor lacks Truth. from what I can see, theres alot of BAD PvPers hanging out in this forum. they click, they backpeddle, they dont want balance, they prefer animations over fluid combat, they dont understand CC, they dont want PvP stats and dont understand why they're there.. What you're seeing is people who never did well in WoW's version of PvP. these people prefer SWG's broken pre-CU joke PvP and the like .. (TKA fencer and mindfires were really compelling gameplay amirite.) These are people who don't know what level people were actually competing at in WoW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox_McCloud Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Swtor pvp has a much lower skillcap. lolautoface, lol no macros, lolcrappyinterrupts etc etc WoW skill cap was not as high as some of the arena people make you think. Arena was first and foremost about group make up based on class imbalances that blizzard never could fix. Warriors and Feral has been ridiculously overpowered for quite awhile now. Anyone having either of those two classes was basically face roll. I honestly thought that vanilla wow- TBC pvp was the best, especially for hybrid classes. Healers were more then just heal bots. As a resto druid, feral charge, allowed for a lot of options in pvp. Now restoration is just spamming hots and travel form, pretty one dimensional play that has nothing to do with the player. I think SWTOR pvp is much better assuming the ability delay and stacking of consumables is fixed soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeusThunder Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Swtor pvp has a much lower skillcap. lolautoface, lol no macros, lolcrappyinterrupts etc etc How is no macros a lower skillcap? Not using macros takes more skill than using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerico Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 @@ disagree - WoW PvP is cross server based, and therefore will never be better than TOR PvP for me. SWTOR will be Cross-server based in the near future (within the year for sure). Read the devtracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaFurz Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Last time I played WoW is 5-6 years ago, it was miles better than this crap here for sure. There was open pvp and later the Battlegrounds were just much more fun than this tiny small ones in swtor. Edited January 12, 2012 by BobaFurz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celebrus Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Lets face it. Me > You and Else. Cry for nerfs all you want, things will never change, L2Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lectro Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 oh you enjoy playing 80% hutball games? because your server ratio is wacked out? Re-roll Republic. Problem solved:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangKer Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) Truth. from what I can see, theres alot of BAD PvPers hanging out in this forum. they click, they backpeddle, they dont want balance, they prefer animations over fluid combat, they dont understand CC, they dont want PvP stats and dont understand why they're there.. What you're seeing is people who never did well in WoW's version of PvP. these people prefer SWG's broken pre-CU joke PvP and the like .. (TKA fencer and mindfires were really compelling gameplay amirite.) These are people who don't know what level people were actually competing at in WoW. I agree and disagree with you; the one that really caught my eye, which is rarely discussed is the Animation vs. Fuild Combat. I for one would love to have that fuild/smooth feel in this game; though I rarely suffer from lag issues, I feel BW spend a bit more time on the beautiful graphics then the game play and evolving story. I feel if they nerfed the graphics back a bit and focused that power on the PvE & PvP structure and game play, more things/issues will be resolved, allowing a structure of fast, smooth and fluid movement to combine pleasure with majority of the clickers/kboarders in both features, and would possibly cut back on the story line bugs as well. Edited January 12, 2012 by RangKer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblongship Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 @@ disagree - WoW PvP is cross server based, and therefore will never be better than TOR PvP for me. Hey there...hate to break it to you but SWTOR already announced cross server pvp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Not gonna lie - WoW PvP is better than TOR's. People haven't gotten over the novelty of the system yet, but when they do, they'll see the large flaws in the system. And regardless, WoW's responsiveness makes it a better game no matter what you think of the class balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draemos Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) WOW's combat engine is significantly better. That pretty much seals the deal before even counting the competitive scene. Edited January 12, 2012 by Draemos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barakas Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 People seem to forget that WoW cross-server PvP wasn't there at the start, it was a feature they added later. As someone who was there the day WSG, AB, and AV launched, when you had to actually travel TO the battleground to queue, I tend to agree with the OP. As frustrating as WoW PvP was at the start, I don't remember it being THIS frustrating, or faction imbalanced. Of course, I was playing a rogue back then so that's something to consider Undead Rogue I'm guessing? Will of the Forsaken was an I-Win button for the Horde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumfizz Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 LOL! No. SWTOR was awesome until the 50s ruined the warzones. I have not had as much fun in a warzone/battleground since the first BGs were introduced in wow to stop the fighting at tarren mill. WOW has not introduced a decent BG since the original first 3. If you like WOW so much more please go back to it. It's the ex-WOW people that are ruining this game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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