psysention Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Their burst is so OP they are hitting 9k-12k burst on full champ gear tank.. amazingly ower powered.. if the player dun have break free CD ready.. than its GG nerf operatives/scoundrels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quesa Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Oh look, an original troll post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeGBF Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 nah also, in before mod close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psysention Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndiusTheGreat Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Their burst is so OP they are hitting 9k-12k burst on full champ gear tank.. amazingly ower powered.. if the player dun have break free CD ready.. than its GG nerf operatives/scoundrels This is the 2nd topic about this. How about when they pull people into obstacles then stun them while the obstacle roasts them... oh wait they have no pulls... But what about when they knock people off cliffs oh wait... they have no knockbacks that work on players... Well what about their amazingly simple to use combat style oh wait... they are probably the hardest AC in the game to play. Yup. Way overpowered. Nerfbat please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcake Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 here, have a tissue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tindin Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Their burst is so OP they are hitting 9k-12k burst on full champ gear tank.. amazingly ower powered.. if the player dun have break free CD ready.. than its GG nerf operatives/scoundrels screen shot ??? plus a pic of there gear of both players would help....or are you just QQing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackadda Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This guy even posts his OP OP spec... kudos to him for being honest. Smugglers are no different. Gotta love the multiple PVP geared 50's he 3-4 shots about half way through the vid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedricshots Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This guy even posts his OP OP spec... kudos to him for being honest. Smugglers are no different. Gotta love the multiple PVP geared 50's he 3-4 shots about half way through the vid i just got flashbacks from World of Roguecraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lashkor Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) This is the 2nd topic about this. How about when they pull people into obstacles then stun them while the obstacle roasts them... oh wait they have no pulls... But what about when they knock people off cliffs oh wait... they have no knockbacks that work on players... Well what about their amazingly simple to use combat style oh wait... they are probably the hardest AC in the game to play. Yup. Way overpowered. Nerfbat please. Lol hard to play, sorry that medal goes to Maras and Sents. Your class needs to press 4 buttons to be effective in PvP mine uses 20+. Hard to play. Ha. Edited January 9, 2012 by Lashkor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tindin Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This guy even posts his OP OP spec... kudos to him for being honest. Smugglers are no different. Gotta love the multiple PVP geared 50's he 3-4 shots about half way through the vid so??? some one making a video of there best kills makes the class op? notice there are no deaths no him getting attacked just one where his running after guys already busy fighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevrik Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The damage rises about 2k with every nerf post. First it was 5k, then it was 7k, now it's 9k to 12k! Tomorrow they'll be hitting for 15k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foenixz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I might suggest that they need to be looked at. I can couonter a snipers burst ... but do you do with a scoundrel who pops out of stealth and hits you (me I have 13k) iin 4 - 6 seconds. I can pop cooldowns .... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lashkor Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 so??? some one making a video of there best kills makes the class op? notice there are no deaths no him getting attacked just one where his running after guys already busy fighting? A Stealth class opening up on people who are fighting other people? You mean they're supposed to walk up out of stealth? Try playing any other class and killing someone in 3 GCDs. Bet you can't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tindin Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 A Stealth class opening up on people who are fighting other people? You mean they're supposed to walk up out of stealth? Try playing any other class and killing someone in 3 GCDs. Bet you can't! never played an OP dont plan on it ether.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackadda Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 another good vid...this time an Honest scoundrel?... proving the insane from stealth burst damage is done by both republic and empire... ops and scoundresl are 2 sides of the same coin Vids dont lie. players in denial DO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tindin Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 another good vid...this time an Honest scoundrel?... proving the insane from stealth burst damage is done by both republic and empire... ops and scoundresl are 2 sides of the same coin Vids dont lie. players in denial DO. yes we all know there stealth burst is insane but once that is done there damage is meh...so all in all it evens out...if they where such power house dps class why is it there barly at the top of the dps chart? why is everone and there dog now one? because there have a few good hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tindin Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 lmao it's the same video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathid Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Jedi Guards and i bet their mirror are now doing 6.4,,4.8,,4.6 aoe damage plus they have all that other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cylak Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This guy even posts his OP OP spec... kudos to him for being honest. Smugglers are no different. Gotta love the multiple PVP geared 50's he 3-4 shots about half way through the vid well said mate From what i have seen, most classes do ok, but smugglers and op's are way overpowered. If they dont tweak them, they will loose more players due to the inbalance , then they will loose due to a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndiusTheGreat Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Lol hard to play, sorry that medal goes to Maras and Sents. Your class needs to press 4 buttons to be effective in PvP mine uses 20+. Hard to play. Ha. If you're pressing 4 buttons you are doing it entirely wrong. Scoundrel's best skills are almost all conditional. And are mixed between melee range, short range, and longrange. Vital shot is longrange and our primary DOT skills. Flechette round, quick shot, and tendon blast are all short range and all skills that you should be using. Then you get into our melee skills. Blaster whip and dirty kick don't use conditions. One grants upper hand and decent damage, the other is a stun. Then you have back blast which you have to be behind your target to use. Cheap shot requires your opponent to be stunned. Sucker punch, one of your heaviest hitting abilities requires you to have upper hand, then it has a 50% chance to trigger flurry of fists which hits them again and re-triggers upper hand if they are bleeding. We also have a slew of other skills like flashbang grenade which is a 10m range aoe daze and pugnacity a skill that gives 3 energy every 3 seconds that has a 35 second cooldown and a 45 second duration. You NEED to be aware of how to use these skills. Not every fight lasts 10 seconds and is a 1vs1. Unlike sentinels we also need to be careful not to let our energy drop below 60 unless we have an open cool head or are about to finish the fight because we drop from 5 energy regen per second to 3 energy regen per second the moment we do. Also we can only restealth in combat once a minute or once every 2 minutes if we don't spec for it. If we have a DOT on us when we go into stealth the first tick will drop us back out. If we are hit by an AOE in stealth it will drop us back out. Big news since our only CC and our Shoot first ability which is our big attack we can use to open combat from stealth both require stealth to be used. So yes, if a smuggler/op comes at you from stealth, hits you from stealth, you keep your back to them so they can get more hits in. Then they go back into stealth and you didn't DOT them or use AoEs once they go back in to pull them back out. And of course they have a firm understanding of all their abilities and are well specced/geared, they can really, seriously skrew you up. Any class can really seriously skrew you up if they meet you on their ideal terms in their ideal gear with their ideal spec played by a skilled player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitallyatomic Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 An Op doing just fine out of Stealth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54endKWr3c&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lashkor Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 If you're pressing 4 buttons you are doing it entirely wrong. Scoundrel's best skills are almost all conditional. And are mixed between melee range, short range, and longrange. Vital shot is longrange and our primary DOT skills. Flechette round, quick shot, and tendon blast are all short range and all skills that you should be using. Then you get into our melee skills. Blaster whip and dirty kick don't use conditions. One grants upper hand and decent damage, the other is a stun. Then you have back blast which you have to be behind your target to use. Cheap shot requires your opponent to be stunned. Sucker punch, one of your heaviest hitting abilities requires you to have upper hand, then it has a 50% chance to trigger flurry of fists which hits them again and re-triggers upper hand if they are bleeding. We also have a slew of other skills like flashbang grenade which is a 10m range aoe daze and pugnacity a skill that gives 3 energy every 3 seconds that has a 35 second cooldown and a 45 second duration. You NEED to be aware of how to use these skills. Not every fight lasts 10 seconds and is a 1vs1. Unlike sentinels we also need to be careful not to let our energy drop below 60 unless we have an open cool head or are about to finish the fight because we drop from 5 energy regen per second to 3 energy regen per second the moment we do. Also we can only restealth in combat once a minute or once every 2 minutes if we don't spec for it. If we have a DOT on us when we go into stealth the first tick will drop us back out. If we are hit by an AOE in stealth it will drop us back out. Big news since our only CC and our Shoot first ability which is our big attack we can use to open combat from stealth both require stealth to be used. So yes, if a smuggler/op comes at you from stealth, hits you from stealth, you keep your back to them so they can get more hits in. Then they go back into stealth and you didn't DOT them or use AoEs once they go back in to pull them back out. And of course they have a firm understanding of all their abilities and are well specced/geared, they can really, seriously skrew you up. Any class can really seriously skrew you up if they meet you on their ideal terms in their ideal gear with their ideal spec played by a skilled player. No no, you misunderstood. 4 buttons: Stealth, Opener, Backstab, Vanish. Rinse, Repeat. If you're using other buttons you're doing it wrong. Flashbang only makes it more frustrating to actually kill an operative, but I won't blame Ops for that, I'll blame Bioware for some reason thinking they needed to make every CC in this game last 4 seconds for stuns or be a giant AoE. CC is a joke in this game and Resolve is a terrible CC prevention system. Again, Biowares fault, not your class. You can however, kill people in 2-3 hits out of stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riedeas Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 blablabla the main problem isn't op/scoundrel but biochem and overpowered consumables combined with the warzone buffs..Them biochem adrenals can make "any" class do absurd amount of damage really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lashkor Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 blablabla the main problem isn't op/scoundrel but biochem and overpowered consumables combined with the warzone buffs.. Them biochem adrenals can make "any" class do absurd amount of damage really Absurd, sure. Kill someone in 3 GCDs? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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