Evolvana Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 My question is: Is it possible to just play and follow the story with normal quests, without doing the "Heroic" missions? On the first planets I was doing all the Heroic missions, then on the following planets, there are more and more! and everytime it's harder to find a group, or the mission is too long, etc... so now I skip most of the Heroic missions. But is SWTOR meant to be played like this? because I level up slower than the people who do all the Heroic quests, and then when I arrive on a new planet, I'm for example lvl 24 on a planet supposed to be "24-28", and I have sometimes trouble to finish normal quests or beat this or this elite ennemy... even in my storyline quest. So are we obliged to do the Heroics? And I don't want to do farming and kill mob after mob just to level up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old-Lore Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Actually each person levels there own way! I think Heroics are a nice added bonus and helps with the exp gain and gear if it drops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idali Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The heroics are optional, i had to skip a lot of them as well because of the lack of players to do them with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrock Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The meat of the story is in the class quests and the "planet storylines" (just made that up) quest chains. Granted, I'm only in my mid-thirties, but so far they have all been solo quests. Heroic ones usually provide a tiny bit more insight, but I wouldn't call them essential to understanding the story. They are still a nice thing to do though, the rewards are good and some of them are challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rehnisjr Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I did not do any heroics at all from level 30-50, they do not really forward the story. So feel free to skip them, you might be getting a bit behind on levels if you do not do warzones and all the bonus missions thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolvana Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Ok, thanks for your advice! I just realized that because I did skip all the ones in Balmorra and Nar Shadda, I had trouble to kill enemies during my solo quests afterwards. So I wondered if it was really harder to play if I didn't do the Heroic missions... but I see I'm not the only one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PainOfDemise Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I did not do any heroics at all from level 30-50, they do not really forward the story. So feel free to skip them, you might be getting a bit behind on levels if you do not do warzones and all the bonus missions thought. Plus it's a pain in the *** to get groups together for them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawaJedi Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Haven't done a heroic or flashpoint yet. Not enough people on my server, well I suppose when I roll again there will, but for now this captain is flyin' solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylentmana Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I don't do Heroics at all. Honestly, I wish there was a way to tell that a quest giver is going to give you a heroic. I hate going through the conversation only to find out that it's a heroic and I now have to abandon the quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakoth Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Simple answer: Yes. Complex answer: Yes, but you'll miss out on some minor plot details here and there. Many bonus lines require heroics to complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boissi Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I might be off, but no bonus line I've ever done required me to complete a heroic quest. Pretty much all the story line is done with at the actual quest giving as well, so you can just hear the quest giver out and then pretend like you did it. I ended up soloing most 2+ quests, but barely did any quests that require 4 after a certain point, because there was just never enough people to do them. (I leveled quite fast) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconax Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Yes, you don't need to do any Heroic missions. They are entirely optional, but great sources of gear/xp. Often the stories related to each are relatively minor to the overall story of the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolvana Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Ok! thanks! When I did Heroic missions I always ended up to loot stuff which was not fit for my character anyway :/ Heroic2+ can be ok, but it's really hard to find enough people for the Heroic 4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emacu Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Im only mid 20's so far and finding that the heroics on Nar Shardaa are too tuff to beat alone even the the main end point of that mission is same level as me. To me youve got to do them to get enough XP (and I concur you get some awesome kit out of it). I am enjoying the Mission raids and FPs with my guild but just wish some of the lone missions (which I enjoy) were a bit easier to complete alone (plus companion) without steamrollering and ending up in med bay every 2 mins. This then costs tonnes of cash in Kit repairs when I am SUPPOSED to be saving for a level 25 transport and training!!! It doesnt help when the "WayPoints" on the map of objectives and esp. enemy zones are a bit off you can end up wandering around the same part of the map for ages only to find a panel / switch or remaining enemy you need to get is not where the WayPoint is! This seems particular prob. on Nar Shadda and I dont know if Im missing something "in game" or if its a bug ! (have reported none-the-less - the MX droid and the Prison break). Ive also left some (harder ones) to go back when levelled a few more times to complete later but theve disappeared? Im sure I didn't delete them but anyway... What it means is that Ive only got through 1/2 to 3/4 the story arc of that Heroic and missed the end one(?) Do they only last a few days and then delete themselves if you dont reattempt? Ive considered going back to Lowly starting planet now mid 20s to see what XP that offers up? If anyone wants to give me a hand on N/Shaddaa later on on "Peragus Mining Facility" I would appreciate it (message me!) LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardeya Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Although fun, I found that if you want to carry on leveling and enjoying the storyline without interruptions, it's a complete waste of time searching for other players for Heroic 4 missions, if you start a group from scratch. The storyline in the HC4 quests only vaguely represent the story of the planet you're on, and you don't miss anything by not doing them (except for decent experience and nice loot, which you'll out-level soon enough). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emacu Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I am thinking that your right. Since my last posting I've been a bit despondent by fact I teamed up with a guild member (not many levels above me) and we defeated the rouge Jedi and 2 sith apprentices within less than 90 seconds. C'MON ! Spent more time hanging around for each other. Then finished that Story arc and ended up doing mission in the NS Prison that was blocked for "Lone" player only. Took me ages as just had to wait the 9 + mins (why over 9 mins?) to resus destroy each terminal, die immediately then repeat ! EIGHT TIMES. That was the only way for me to complete the task even though enemies all similar levels. Ive fired my "guest" MX droid! Following that went straight back into other Story Arc (Shadow Fist) and that is going to be even worse to get help with I think. Im going to have to go away and level up and come back(?). THEN... a load of us totally unable to find the rest of the guild as it seems we weren't high enough level (as them) to have area of NS mapped yet (only figured this after wandering round and round for 40 mins ! - lets of creds wasted on Taxis). GRRR. Im wondering if I just need to grind levels again for a while oh wait is this SW: Galaxies? Think other less committed players will just go "screw it... its not worth it". Lets have some congruence.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolvana Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 Same thing for me at the H4 on tatooine where we have to kill 50 tuskens. We spent 30 min finding 4 people to go there, and couldn't even finish the quest because it was so hard and we found no healer... It was not worth the effort but I already almost finished all my solo quests on tatooine and was only lvl 27 (and the next planet is supposed to start at lvl 28!) It's not easy to level up sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emacu Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Have just reported this whole issue ! Lets see what happens or what they suggest!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KahnyaGnorc Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I've so far skipped all Heroics (except the one on Tython) and, at level 36, I am doing all green quests, and have been since Worlds started overlapping. In addition, I have yet to see a storyline in solo quests (including the main planet story arc) that harkens to heroic quests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyCooL Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Heroics are useless narrative-wise... I'm Level 43 and have done all my Heroics and only reason to do them is loot.... Story is extremely sparse, gameplay falls back into generic roles - spanking, healing and tanking overblown Gamorrians( Generally, enemies that have no business having so much HP) Really with the Galactic Market, theres really no reason to do them.. Flashpoint, on the other hand, are worth it for story ..... , and loot, and gameplay. Taral, for instance is Amazing,... Really just do planet, class, bonus series quests.... and whatever else you want. Personally I recommend FP and Ilum PvP with a smidgin of Space Combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setta Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Ok! thanks! When I did Heroic missions I always ended up to loot stuff which was not fit for my character anyway :/ Heroic2+ can be ok, but it's really hard to find enough people for the Heroic 4... I don't understand this mentality. Most people can solo 2 man heroics, I've been doing this for a while now. But if you need a group member that's not really a problem, it's fairly easy to find at least one person on the same quest. 4 man heroics could be done with 2 people and 2 companions just as well, or 3 people and 1 companion. Since a group maxes out at 4 people, with or with out companions. It would just require you to do so at a slightly higher level to compensate for the fact that companions are not as good as human players, and maybe, just maybe use that cc that people have but seem to always forget about. Edited January 5, 2012 by Setta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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