1.A 16 year old guild leader had the forethought to leave the a wish that his siblings run the guild 2. Some stranger, not a family member, or new guild leader, breaks the news on a online gaming forum, instead of keeping to folks that knew him 3. Very convenient that with all this death and good friends, no one knows real names 4. Every body has a jaded point of view on death, that's why you can find when folks die in the paper, public record If a 16 year old, or a 90 year old died, you have my heart felt sympathy, unfortunately this is not the place, nor the way to morn them, and I just don't believe the way the story has unfolded. For those that wish to flame me for this post, I would never have put something like this up to begin with, you put it out there, its going to be looked at and opinions are going to be rendered, remember where you are, where you posted this.

Ouch...just saying

LMAO, this is what happens when you loose npc's to beat up on, ya run to the forums and beat on each other Lol...funny really

So when your car breaks and your leasing it, what happens to the time you loose? When your house floods and the plumber needs you to stay at a hotel, who pays for the hours lost while you get your insurance together? Look, I did not say 50 cents doesn't have value, my post was to tell nit pickers like you to mellow out and have a more Realistic view of a video game being off line for a dam day. Do you really read what you post, because you make comparisons that don't really hold up, if your so worried about 50 cents, Why are you even wasting time playing a game that is obviously nothing but a time and money sink from its conception? Mostly what I say to you, and folks like you, they are trying to fix the problem, and haven't even been given the chance to offer you anything for the down time, how would you respond to the demand...eh?

CRAZY PEOPLE Pist, sure I am, well annoyed. Do the math, you pay roughly 50 cents a day for this game, all the rest you paid the c store and you will have when the servers are up Making wall of text posts proclaiming how justified you are in being annoyed at this is just making you and this tread, well ridiculous. DEVS GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER, C'mon dudes and dudets, stop smoking your lunch and do the jobs your titles suggest you do. Thanks

Just returned to game, housing would be nice. However I find this string depressing. B.W keeps saying in there vids and posts how this is not just their game, how its yours too....but everytime someone move foward with a personal idea...like this one... instead of being recieved with respect... it personal put down, name calling, general schoolyard mentality if you dont like it, you have to slam it and put it down. sad really, another reason not to cooperate with the community

SWG...My first MMO...... After that, they all pretty much let me down. I had to come to relize it was because my first had spoiled me. Now I spend my time comparing what I had and liked to what I cant get. MMO's are only part of the problem. Community as mentioned before is a big part. PvP vs PvE, Young vs Old, Immature vs Mature, and I hate to add this one, mainly because I have played both wiseman and the fool, but , Smart vs Stupid I feel it comes from many things but boil down to 2 basic play types, the go go go type, usually pvp, but not always, and the , hey whats up type, the ones that hang out and like being art of the scenery as the gameplay goes on, usually pve, but once again not always. Far as this game, well OP already let the cat out the bag for me when he said he played WoW, so pretty much, his comparison is WoW, and the stuff in SWTOR that reminds him of that game

Really??? I mean you for real?

It is in the talks as far an anyone knows. Hate to tell ya plain, but it is out there and seems to be brushed under the rug for now

I do not think leaving a warzone is cool at all. I do not think you should bail on yout team. You are over looking a few things; 1) I know a few of us( our guild ) have had issues with doors letting us out to fight. 2) Getting d/c from the game for no apperent reason- Ive been on with guildmates and they dont fall out of vent, just game...so ... who knows? 3) premades roll over the feild, thats cool, I roll with premades, but you can tell who is getting run over because they have no clue. Now Ive made posts before and come to understand, embrace the I expect players to know in PVP list. But I feel we should be sure the game/system isnt encouraging it before we out and out fault someone, its hard to be sure.

Dont feel qualified to call it art, just manipulation. Wanst going to post this but son thinks its cool http://www.tlwone.com/zentem.png

I bow to you man, alls I can do is manipulate lines and other peoples work, cold lifeless things, what you draw is ...fantastic. I thank you for sharing

Warzones are getting too hard to play. When you try to go with the team, take out the objectives, and are getting slaughtered... You have to make a choice, keep zerging in, where I am not going to get crap, or try to make something happen by takeing on another objective to get the points..... It gets hard to deal any damage when you zerg and get nailed in 3 seconds= no points, people complaining , = no fun

Its happening more and more... thought it was just me

I gave in and rolled on other servers... my 50 , legacy and all that house drifts in limbo lol

Hi-ya, I posted on yout other thread But as an imp on swift...thought Id say hello Wreckless ( I of course am imp on swift )

Two best I have experianced Swift Sure Wound in the Force To be honest, I do not know who rules on Wound, I am pretty sure imps rule Swift, But the Rebs aint no lay down and die types , and that rebelion is growing all the time

they dont care, this thread is gong to get closed

I know alot of you might think this petty. And I know it is My problem, I only have one eye to use, the other is blind. This new format really make it hard to track the forum properly. And for those ardeholes that say, good one less, I think your scum

True this:cool:

English ...Do You Speak it? It is a most wonderful word twisting thing huh? Now does anyone here watch stocks to invest in? Thing is this, LAST YEAR THESE CUTS WERE PREDICTED, because the titles were OVERBUDGET. Now its RUMERED that is going to happen because of this or that. Its a coorprate move, that has been linked to SWTOR going down the drain. Has anyone seen or played Champions online? Star Trek online? As much of a trekkie as I am, if these game havent died, I highly doubt this on will for some time to come, and EA is still a heavy hitter that knows when they got a licence to make cash, and here it is wrapped up in a Star Wars bow, not to mention the long relationship Lucas Arts has with EA. If you want to link these layoffs, that I might add , Has not been confirmed on layoffs or reasons, then show me a press release from EA saying SWTOR is Failing, or that they have future plans on letting Lucus Arts down and pulling the plug. NOT to mention Bioware wasnt just hatched out of an egg, they have more than one succesful title under their belts to make revenue with, doubt they are going to let this investment go after all this. Rottons Worthless Opinion...take it for what it is worth:cool:

Old Rotton Says ; ( who the hell is that guy ) The original question, am I staying subbed, Yes The debate, patch/nerf , getting better getting worse, gameplay changes, My tune dosent work like it used to its useless... Its like this IMO, they change things, its going to change how I play ie the whole game takes a different angle, maybe 5 degrees off, maybe more. Point is if I want them to work on the game, I got to expect this, or is it fix everything and not my class....that will end up hurting too Are these changes really Game Breaking... I wont insult those who think they are by just saying no, but I will say , I dont think so, not yet. B/W did not know how much this game would get shook down in 5 months, poor mislead guys, thought people would drone on a year or so before they had to roll out big changes, once again, my opinion. 5 months in and a huge patch, free game time offer, pets....I can see they are trying to give us something....No? To be fair ... I felt even in beta , endgame left alot to be desired, crafting....pffft Now +50 pvp is hit and miss, and the fun pvp still is 20 to 49. Ill wait, and see:cool:

You Want it You Got it The end is NEAR!!!!! Thats it man Game Over!!! This game died and is smelling up my PC!!! disclaimer; none of this is actual, no the game is not dead, had the game actually died, you would have been informed where to claim all bodies, property, and screenshots of such carnige

Interesting question. Upon reflextion, both, there should be single player missions avilable with reduced rewards. Grouping ingame is still a problem, but the deal is to promote it, not lessen it or make it any more Un-needed then it already is

Belive me when I say, I do mean it with luv.... long day