So epxlain this - we have to save the sand people by pouring antidote there, but at the same time we have to EXTERMINATE them all in order to do so? This is like killing all the dogs on the street in order to reduce birth rate... You follow?

so? it's still epic fail

So I saw this picture of the new quest line http://images.4chan.org/vg/src/1334741544586.jpg Now, we have to save the sand people by exterminating their entire village just to pour an antidote into the water? GOOD JOB BIOWARE! Who wrote those quests, random children at the kindergarten? And seriously, is THIS with what you hope to bring back the former players?

And then, what?

Aren't you tired already? ALL the people who make the criticizing threads ARE NOT haters, they love or loved the game and just want it not to die in the trash cans! When you jump out defending your own opinions, backed up with only your moral ethics you are helping absolutely no one. People here come up with FACTS, while you try to ruin the threads with OWN OPINIONS.

Aren't you tired already? ALL the people who make the criticizing threads ARE NOT haters, they love or loved the game and just want it not to die in the trash cans! When you jump out defending your own opinions, backed up with only your moral ethics you are helping absolutely no one. People here come up with FACTS, while you try to ruin the threads with OWN OPINIONS. If you really love the game, then BACK THEM UP, instead of proving them wrong

This. Seems I am not the only one who thinks most of the programming (especially the interface) has been made by students that just learned programming, and have no idea about MMOs LOL dude I love you! Fail. The game is competing with the games in 2012, not with when they were released (like WOW)

Same! I was also so optimistic at the beggining... In the beta I was "omg this game have great potential and I look forward to play it in the next few years!" In the oficial release I was "Meh, still some problems they will get fixed soon, they are working hard" The last month "They already released few patches, why isn't anything important adressed, what are they doing anyway" Now "What was I thinking, this whole game is a mess, and can only be repaired with additional 6 to 12 montsh development, in this state it is just an insult to all real gamers..."

It took them more than 2 months to come up with the most basic and important thing for MMO - chat bubbles. Now try to guess when the biggest issues like performance will be adressed

What happened to the game? Why is it so incomplete? EA happened, thats what. They said they want the game in december 2011, no matter what, and here's the final result. Seems like they will never learn

My post will look so poor compared to the OP, but still, this thread needs attention and bump, so here I am. Excelent work OP, you pretty much covered EVERYTHING me and most of the playerbase had in mind, explained clearly and backed up with facts. My theory for the game fail is - EA. We all had great hopes that their long greedy hands won't touch the game that much, but seems we were all wrong... I am saying this, because EA are worldwide known for their strict and SHORT time deadlines (hope that expressin was correct) - they say to bioware "We want the game released December 2011. Period. No matter finished or not, we need the money" Even if there's no big need to express my own opinion, I'll do it just for the OP's sake: I was just like you, quited WoW, and excited as hell about this, seeing all the bright sides of it, looking forward to years of playing it, and now I think I am slowly but surely losing interest... Respect to you mate!

Since you mention it..... you are so right...

This game is just NOT AN MMO. It's a single player game with chat and random people passing by

What you mean it's not simple? I DONT CARE MAN. That's not my frigin place to decide if it's simple or complicated, I as a customer say "I want this" and I expect to get it. It's not my job to know how it is programmed or something. It's THEIRS! And they haven't done it. Like someone said, the game should NOT be competing with WoW from 2006, but from WoW in 2012 !!!

Why in every criticizing topic some random people pop up defending the game like we are attacking their own personality? Understand that the game have TONS of problems and need to be fixed, and you are not helping ANYONE by defending your own opinions

Tell us your reasons please

Nope it's not just you

Why all classes have every kind of ability possible? Everyone have some kind of stun, un-stun, slow, un-slow, few AOEs, interrupt, anti-interrupting ability... Why you made all classes the same? Where is the distinctiveness?

My deepest respect to you mate! The truth saddens me so much, yet I am still optimistic that things could change. I will not be optimistic always however... Don't know if I've wrote it here, but in WoW I had a shaman alt that I leveled for ONE YEAR, and I was enjoying every single second with it, every single area, every single quest and killing every single mob. What I get here, even though the game is completely new and supposed to be a bit unknown to understand and learn - a rush to 50lvl even without trying to rush. I leveled for maybe 2 weeks, which is hilarious. And only to find out that there is so very little to do at 50lvl, not to mention that there is no casual stuff AT ALL!

What's worse is that the game actually costs $300M !!! I am so happy everyone agree with me. Let's review shortly how ALL the professions work: 1 Gathering skill - to gather ALL the materials all by yourself and not need any outside help. 1 Crafting skill - all the different types of crafts, like blaster pistol and blaster rifle require the same amount of materials and the same materials... ***? 1 Mission skill - To gather blue ingrediends and gifts. And for some color, there is the Slicing - which most people would think will get recipes and crafting missions most of the times. It actually gives you missions and schematics in 5% of the time, and the rest of the time it's just credits (that dont even cover the expenses). And that's ALL! All the Crew Skills made exactly the same way, with the same mechanics and stuff. So now, let me tell you (you probably know, but still) how the crafting in WoW works: For start, you have, lets say Mining - you mine the ore which you can use yourself or sell to other professions that also require it. Then you go craft with Blacksmithing - some recipes require ingredients which you cant get yourself and must buy or grind (cloths or gems). You can also craft things that are needed for other professions, like enchanting or engineering. And so on, and so on...

signed

agreed with OP

Agreed 200% with the OP

And what about the casual 50lvls? There is absolutely no casual content in the game

***??? At least it symetric