I didn't keep mine. Today is the last day I believe. My two best friends quit and just stop playing. For ME it was and is the lack of people in game. Again for ME when I did play World of Warcraft you got the FEELING people where there. Here ME I feel I just bought a game and playing.. It never FEELS like a MMO. When you see 12-150 and yet only see 1-8 people ever running around 1/2 the time.. just no fun for ME. Awesome game.. and patch 1.2 does brings nothing for ME. And I am not playing any other mmo at this time.

They will do what ever it takes to keep and get more people playing. Its about MONEY and like it or not thats the way this world is. If without it they keep losing people they will put it in and a few posts saying if they do I will leave means nothing. See who cares what the forums say.. IN GAME what are people saying? People have been tried of waiting and waiting and waiting for groups. Prove to them IN GAME .show them how it will hurt not just with your lips aka text in a forum.

Well 1st they put them out way to soon and sad you just can't ask. And lol this is a GAME not a car and Dayln you remind me of my Grandma (bless her, gone home) she would always look out the window and just HAVE to know what that other person was doing. Just relax you cant control others. They pay just like you and sorry but they are talking about the GAME..so close the window and relax....oh its just TEXTED.. smile

I think I will stay away from la la land aka "proof" All anyone has to do is look at Blizzard when WOW started, when they launched it for MAC and look now. So is there any other thing Blizzard is putting out that will also work on MAC? Hmm gee why would they keep doing something that didn't make money? HAHA yeah its was NEVER to make PLAYERS happy. If it works you don't fix it. Now look at SWTOR for PC. Going to MAC will not bring in extra money. I am sure they went through all this months and years before launch. Its easy to look from the outside and ..well say anything and it sounds like truth. Work and music .. Mac.. though I would play SWTOR on Mac.

Do you really think any MMO is going to give out REAL numbers? What MMO does it? No matter what World of Warcraft puts out most say its a lie or AION, OR AoC do I have to say the rest? All, if you played them you know from the start it was the same old talk. "its not dead people are working, prime time is not the same for everyone, they just show'ed the sells and population and its a record, it always dies down after the 1st 30 days, my server has more people on it now then when I 1st started". If you played any other MMOS and posted in the forums lol you know the story. You have people saying the game is growing since Feb yet not one can show where. Get real the game is not dead nor is it growing. All we have to do is show the server sizes in Feb and NOW.....yeah you will NEVER see those numbers. We all know come some time in April the game will have tons of people for one reason ONLY. 1.2 Then 1-3 weeks it will be as it is NOW. Its not that the game is no fun but for most its DEAD. And there is NOTHING thats ever going to change that in the next 6-12 months. People said this in beta and the tons of instances and the feel of solo kills it for most. So no I don't see doom for SWTOR. When they say they are happy if the game just brakes even.. that says it all. "for a lack of vision my people perish". So if like this game who cares what ANYONE says. Until they say FTP or shut down keep playing. Always going to be someone saying its dead..no its better then ever.. blah blah blah.. But dont ever think SWTOR are never going to with hold info.. bad info will not help the game like everyone else.. bend the truth as far as you can..

If SWTOR was going to have any effect on ...well ANY MMO it would have happened by now. OP you need to understand some people do not like to read. Now this is not a put down all you have to do is open a book and (I will lose some here) alot of good books have more then 3-6 lines in a paragraph. And if we go back to older texts to some great reading.. you are readying pages of "I can't read that, wall of text". I guess you can just hi-light it and have MAC read it to you? HAHA its a game no more no less. Your posting on a gaming forum that you can't read what 11 lines. Want a truth? Your paying for a game where they have made it clear from the start its all about MONEY not players. No I am not.. no I don't post this has been the ONLY one for weeks. Great game just not enough people in zones for ME. And patch 1.2 will not fix it.

Well I think 1.2 will do nothing. Its not going to change how many are playing in your zone. That 20-150 will be the same, the zone will still be dead with NPC's just standing. Oh World of Warcraft had 20 servers at launch. But lets remember that was what 2004? Good bad launch really means nothing. Its what the DEV's did that matters. And come 1.2 will show us the path SWTOR is taking. But what it looks like now and from what they have said.. just to brake even they will be happy. That is not a good start. For me evey MMO that you felt like no one was there listening to you has never done good. Customer Service? As of NOW has is it? This should have been the 1st thing fixed at day one. If you FEEL they care most tend to hang in... But its still only the 2nd month and if they do this right then can really get this going!

lol yeah I love standing or doing something else for 30-1h PLUS waiting for just 4 FOUR others to join. I know I know the OP will say.. I never have a problem getting groups.. great post your server and lets see how easy it is.. But guess what it mattes not if you like it or not for its coming and you have no say..

I so agree with OP. My friend been 50 for a while now and logs in maybe once a week and is getting ready to quit. Just nothing to do. Say what you want but after how many years this MMO was in prep and all the other MMO's out there we ALL know how much END GAME is needed. How can they launch this and what no one ever said.. A maybe we should have something for those that reach 50 to do?... So DON'T be shocked when 1.2 patch comes and there is NOTHING huge there for them to do.

Ok what YOU do with your money.. well I could careless. As we read there are some that HAVE to ..or try very hard to control others. But if you PAY for this then if you solo or group ..yep why in the WORLD would I care?

You know this is lame..sorry but.. since we are posting we ALL can just check how many servers show how full - light. There are no servers ..no ONE that is better now then at launch. I picked 4 and then EU side. No one of them EVER get FULL now.. yeah they all moved to LIGHT servers? lol But we all new this would happen. Its not going to get better. The word on the street so to speak is not how GREAT SWTOR is. Come 1.2 yep those that are paying yet not playing will log in to see whats changed and then make the choice to stay or leave. Out of 3 friends 2 still pay.. not playing but once a week at best.

Guys/gals its only been what going on two months now? And granted a lot of what I am reading needs to be done but come on can't be done in a week let alone one month and we know this. And what we want done how long do WE want them to test it? A day, a week? = time

Question what MMO added/changed this dead world, no life kind of thing after launch? Watched two friends play up to 50 and STILL to this very day no matter what time the places are DEAD. But you know for the most part every mmo is like this. And were all kids so the "they are not doing it so why do I have to?' pops up. But here it a tad worse. The life moves but never off the spot its on. So is it going to change? Some of us told them many many many months before launch..it was called BETA. Now they did NOTHING then you expect them to start now?

OP do you know what MMO means? You do know games like Skyrim there is no real life players yes? Well in a MMO there are REAL people. I guess some people just like knowing there are other REAL people running around like them. Take real life.. why are YOU not talking to everyone in the store? Out walking talking to all those people you don't know? Yet you expect people to play a MMO and start talking to everyone? And please I yet to find a guild in this game that just chat. Most never just chat its off and on or their in a group and use G chat to talk to each other

What do people think they just got all this info in one day and posted it? And why do some people just RUN with this? Does anyone remember some other mmos that had the best launch ever.. Record sales.. blah blah blah and those MMO's are doing what now? I love the "and growing". Great thought but ask them to post sales during launch till now. Not how many sub's there are.. ask how many PLAYING NOW. My son hardly plays any more ..guess what.. yep one of those 1.7..NOT PLAYING still paying. But in all truth we know theres going to be some "PR" work and this world is not like it was 5 years ago ..times are tough on some people. So its going to take a good 6-12 months to see if this game takes off not each month which will be up and down for awhile.

Yeah you have to look somewhere else to see what sales where and what they are now.. thats NOW! Huge drop. Does anyone KNOW someone NOT playing? Yep so all those that just not sure are still sub'd so ACTIVE.. yet no playing. Haha this is just rich. People have a fit when 12 million.. yet SWTOR its 100% FACT! In other words just say you like the game and your still playing be it 12mil or 1.7 or .5 I could careless I am still having a blast. I don't see tons of people lol 150 at the most..Oh and my other very heavy server never gets to heavy anymore. Yep they must have moved to a more empty server.

lol I think the OP and the like ask for what happens. I play on different servers, I have way to many toons lol and so far had only 2 people hit need on everything. And if you really have been around the you know most people IN GAME never read the forums. Is a game you cant keep anything ever. Some people are just way to funny. All these silly made up rules. We just say if you need it need if not greed or just ask if you want it. Be surprised how many wonderfully fun nice people are out there. Lol its a game get over your self. Have fun

This is about the only thing that SWTOR stomps any other mmo. I too have had I think 3-4 (mail in game) gold sellers.

Well they new all this way before launch. You can only tell them so many times.. wild life just standing moving about 1foot then back. NPC standing, some fighting again standing getting shoot at. Sure all mmos are like this (sad 7+ years later and they make the same) WOWs the same yet things are moving for the most part. Its to late. They took out so much stuff that was in beta (if you were in you know) why .. no clue. To add later? Make us think they been working on something?' Honest here.. I just got my ship was doing the 1st mission (not space) and I really forgot it was a mmo. No one around .. yet heavy server.. no clue. For ME.. ME.. its like I am paying to play SKYRIM..NPC talk.. move life yet I have the same feeling.. alone. You have your PET a person that kind of talks now and then. I can do most things alone.. why do I need others? MMMMOOOOO Having fun.. just wish had better graphics like beta had, more life, let more people on servers.. blah blah blah.. .next

lol I read the 1st post then post. Well most will just troll or trash the OP. No I find I can and want to log in. Whats killing it for me is .. I don't want to just QUEST. Doing the 1st instances is easy after this is a night mar to get people to help and you only need 4. Its just no fun when you have to lvl past the req level then go back and do it alone. Some you can most you can't. But really look how they been handling things. By the time they TALK to us and really listen.. its to late..people will have moved on. What I mean is things like they need to really open up the servers let more then 1-200.. yet I have never seen200 184 was it.. the space station and then never that high anywhere else and thats 4 servers very heavy and one EU server.. I do test.

I really don't know what would fix it. There are instances I have never done. Talked to my two boys that play and same with them one is lvl50 the other 30 something. Server show'd very heavy and YOU pick the time they could never get a group. Though this falls under LFG but also low pop's. Love the game or dislike really means nothing. Its things like this that just kill it. And then you enter a ticket and the only answer after 4 days is.. use the social window.. LMAO.. go for it.. you find EVERY DAY you look only ONE - THREE people thats it. And we all know most people that play and have these kind of problems or none never post.

I agree please dont do this. Makes people group alot more.

You really should not ever compare World of WarCraft with SWTOR. You will just get very upset or depressed. You find sever years later they didnt try to do anything better. You have voices sure but what about a finished MMO? PVP? Trader? Endgame? The list is hugh. There are things they new about for at least 5 years but did not do anything. They launched a unfinished MMO and like every other mmo said it was the best launch ever. Which even if true is all it has going for it. Want end game..you HAVE to wait many months. Better graphics? Maybe.. maybe late March. Dont take my word for anything.. just try and ask them. Like a few bad mmos they will not talk to us. Just a one post here and there. Don't get me wrong I am playing and having fun but take out voices and killing 10, 30 then right after 45 more .. sorry the voices did nothing for this.

I have two toons 28000 now at lvl 19. So its SOOOOOOOOOOO easy to get credits here. And really what in the world do you have to buy? As if ARMOR really makes a diff at lower lvls.

a YUGO Ok can we come back from la la land. Every new mmo says they are and were the smoothest launch of all time. This was not the smoothest.. but you will ALWAYS hear it was HERE and by fans. And then you most likely hear how bad others were in the same post and then WOW really gets hammered. But what the leave out is how OLD the other mmos are. Yeah World of warcraft came out 2004 this SWTOR Fall 2011. And came out just like the rest. PVP a mess, end game a mess full of bugs. So 7..SEVEN years later they didnt change anything. They launch a game unfinished because thats how all the rest did it. So lets not paint this MMO as the best.. its no different just has voices. You still have to kill 30 then get the bonus of kill 45.. yeah.. so much has changed. Its fun ..