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old ranked players talk about coming back to swtor . Most argue they are against it because of lack of new blood in pvp lack of competition and the game catering to casual pve . they seem very jaded about swtor citing many times they have tried to revive it . However they seem on the verge of persuasion. here is the vod courtesy of roudys stream: time stamp is 25:50 to 51:40 ( lots of curse words for those who dont appreciate it ) https://www.twitch.tv/roudyzor/v/96333391 wondering what is the community's thought is on this. personally I think they havent played recently enough to see the new pvpers( if they even bother to check) or the state of ranked. solo q and tr has been popping on tre without them. With them we would probably have a sizeable ranked community again. lastly I hope swtor devs take the time out to watch the biggest nerds of swtor opinions so they may have a more nuanced opinion then what they get from forum post.

elite death match? what should we call regs casual mini game? almost 0 responsibility when you are **** , objectives which sometimes do not get contested are you are twindling your thumbs with game minmized playing tetris for 20 mins, 5 healers in one match , angry regstars who have no ambition to stick their hand in competitively . i play regs alot dont get me wrong but its just when i cant be assed to think.

yes but you need to be in a certain stance to activate , with the changes he is implying you can use guard outside of tank stance which is stupid. not sacrifice dmg for the ultimate peel is dumb , no healer will be unguarded .also you wont be able to predict someones spec before combat in solo q with the removal of stances as I hear there is no buff signalling their spec. going to be so facerolly in solo q.

pls reset ability cooldowns after duels . Waiting 3 mins in between duels is massively time wasting plus i think the change will take little work . cheers .

you gotta find the right people if you want to duel. certain pvp guilds will be down for it if you /whisp them im sure; goes for whatever server you are on. also URC is a tournement dedicated to 1 vs 1. guide to dueling as mando whislt being tipsy. ( slightly rusty in duels department) to kill a sorc as mando , wait 4 them to overextend on low hp and pop kolto procced to reck. obv you cant be **** , make sure they use bubble . and make your all your major dcd,cc is used by this time. sorcs overextend if they are bad, capitalize on this . save your chaff flare for their demolish. ( madness sorcs) use lower shield utlity for sorc along with mobile blaxing bolts. make sure you abuse los by using bb and running behind it snipers are trcikey , cc break thier flash and kite hard. use shield on ambush, if you dont know the animation yous a *******. use net early and reserve heatseeker autocrit for either 1 ) when they get close , 2) after a gcd . off heal plenty and dont let them get close. los after their autocrit and offheal. for mara just abuse your cc on them. they cant do nutin. if its a fury mara ripperino cus you have to be experienced to beat a decent one. against a decent fury mara i took def utlity and had some success. the main thing to do is survive early burst and pusipump them after saber ward. jugs are op against merc. straight up veng 's cc immunity and rages burst/stronk anti blazing bolt dcd will foock you up. the key is being efficient with your cc and jewing out offheals. skank jugs : lolbioware . try bait them to use saber ward and enraged at the same time by using autocrit into saber ward, along with priming shot and tracer.( yellow dmg) sins are ez on all specs. break on full resolve and refuse to take dick. i say this but most sins are garbage atm. maybe 1-2 good ones so my samples is poor. powertech abuse cc , hydraulics+net , watch fuel buff and use chaff flare = big keks operative: dynamic dueling class ; tis very trciky to beat . needless to say abuse chaff flare and use it right, wait for double roll, abuse net. use scant o purge root, keep range. lastly learn your rotation and what colour damage your abilities do. anyone want practise duels whisp me on TRE. i'm by no means top merc on tre (and i stress rusty af) though i do have a few tricks. and yes i cba to correct the grammar/spelling mistakes.

naw man. can you think of what white dmg conc oper has bro? unless your worried about your auto attacks missing or your snipe . i recomend 200 percent accuracy cus they say the more accuracy you have the harder the sniper into hard stun combo hits.:D

whoever designed the classes of swtor is a mastermind , very dynamic classes imo. I think that is partially why pvp hasnt died out is because the classes are so fun to play. pvpositive#

pvp forum is going into maintenance , anyone else have that problem. If so how long b4 its open again?

check certain pvp guild rosters. if there is many of em online ; pound to a pinch of sht yolo will happen on both sides.

got a few questions for people on this board . - what is your average dps parse in full aug 208 pvp gear - what is your optimal rotation with situational ( i.e I use sweep after biggest range dot if the enemy is stacked as it has highest dps and biggest uptime ) abilities -what utilities do you take thanks!

when the pt tank gets 3k dps cus he can press flame storm.

pops usually start at 6pm and end at 11. Team Ranked also sometimes pop in the evening be sure to ask fleet though.

i can only speak for tre but ranked 8 vs 8 will have some sort of pvp revival here. even TR here has been picking up lately. Other things bioware must do is re balance the meta to make diff classes more viable in pvp. If pyrotech and lethality were viable it would add much to pvp dynamic. Also buff oper/merc heal and everything else outside fotm spec. Most pvp players I know ( and i mean dedicated ; as in no pve ) hate objectives. most good pvp guilds refuse outright to do it only dps farm and rightly so as objective is a snoozfest. rank rewards need to be reconstructed into something worth attaining . Its criminal that casual pve can gain better looking stuff then sweaty nerds in ranked who spend much more time and have much more skill. Lastly bioware need to support the pvp community , Like more features on the client main page to pvp stream so we can grow. Maybe host an official tournement with crazy rewards. Overall my prediction is 8 vs 8 will bring some of the ancient pvp guilds/players back temporarily but once they find is lack of competition, **** leader board filled with wintraders/hackers/q-dodgers( i.e ; shout out to certain 2.5k rated sages), lack of rewards and notalgia is worn off they will go. They will see a clear lack of supp from the devs and disappear again just like this season. We saw great players from the past come back to play only to realise its a dump here in terms of support for pvp and the damage has been done visibly to the hardcore pvp population. Bioware MUST change up the meta and make interesting FUN to play classes that are viable to keep these players.Pyrotech has so much potential to be great ; if only they would exploit it. There must be rewards worth having and solid competition , which i admit is dependant on the current crop of pvp players to come through and old ones to come back , but this can be helped MASSIVELY by server merges , cross faction and cross EU/NA pvp. This would be a WORTHY investment bioware ffs. The potential of subs would be crazy and not only that subs that add depth to this game. The subs that tell you the dynamics of your combat system , who create excitement, attain skill , put in the most hours. so put in 8 vs 8 ranked , make classes viable and FUN , make pvp rewards great again and support our community if you are truly srs about this worthy endeavour .

there is no denying that ap pt has great dmg potential , however this is the niche they fill. Being the most bursty. I have extensively played pt in solo q and manage to maintain round silver rating with out extensively q syncing / faction swapping when the bads are around . Pts are usually always the first to die and are able to take around 140k to 150k dmg before dropping without offheals . Kiting with pt is key and they cannot take dmg as easily as other classes who simply press dcd's or offheal and can achieve the same amount of dmg taken if not more. so when i hear people saying the problem is pt survivability I must shake my head. pt sc heal rate was nerfed by 2 percent . We get 7 rockets ; 7 x 2 = 14 % .that 14 percent . 14 percent of our hp is is maybe 2-3 gcds before we die which is huge in buying time for our team mates to win. The nerf to rail shot range has gimped us even further then we already are when hydraulics is down. Being so easy to global and unable to utilize range with rs procs with aoe missile is a *****. This Rail shot nerf makes us easier to kite which was doable for most ranged classes already. If any pts have grinded gold rating plus using strictly ap pt i would very much like to hear some of the tactics they have utilized to get there or any advice they might want to give. The nerf to mag blast didnt make much sense as most ranged classes laugh at slows anyhow and it procs everytime we spam mag blast which is alot.

hey devs , I would like to thank you for the class balance changes even if they dont make sense to my mind . nerfing pt as a whole rather then pt tank. Ap PT is just about viable in solo q and with these nerfs are brought closer to the edge, pyrotech is ****. Buffing sorcs output as long as they dont derp out of procs and actually use resource management skills is at least a step in the right direction I would like to put in a suggestion for a plan going forward with balance changes ; before *********** up viable specs why not buff specs that are non factors. For example pyrotech, IO , lethality , lightning, bodyguard are all specs that are arguably non factors in ranked and warrant changes . I think bringing all specs to a level before unleashing the nerf bat would be more safe and fun for everyone. This will add much more replay value to regs , ranked and the game as a whole because if they brought these specs into line there would be more ways to play the game.

pt got a nerf cus they looked at the leaderboard and saw teh huge disparity in rating between pts and other classes. What the devs failed to realise , since they lack any sort of pvp experience , is that the front page of pt/van leaderboard is almost players who farmed the bulk of their rating using pt tank.

- AP PT -gunner mando deception is fun and sentinel concentration is growing on me

tactics van is the only viable dps class for vans. You could go dps geared tank but im unsure of how dps tank is successful on van compared to other spec's.

getting 1700 rating for pt lol? not every pt will be pt tank m9.

i think increasing the skill ceiling and a high skill floor is what most people wants for their class. Time and effort learning a class needs to be rewarded . rage is fine imo if not lacking in survivability . its been a while since I played it but the optimal rotation has force scream between obliterate and raging burst in order to proc the autocrit so people have time to react.Plus they must be in melee. operative dps is fine , its their survivability and control which can be toned down in the hypothetical scenario of a nerf.They get 4 secs of invulnerability every 10 seconds i Believe which is crazy when stacked onto their other defensive manoeuvres . electronet is great?! its one of the pillars of merc gameplay and whats even better is it rewards those who use it wisely and those punishes those who make mistakes. pt burst is the only thing it has ; if you nerf it they will become irrelevant . For each Pt burst window a class has a super dcd to counter. If newbs are put off by getting globalled , i doubt they really want to pvp anyhow. I'd think rather they will be wondering why they are getting bodied so fast and begin a journey to become better.

you have the wrong attitude for pvp , you come with pve mindset . You need to block out naysayers and focus on getting better.

@andryah srs pvpers going on prog ?! they are all here on TRE , watch the streams, they have accs on irrelevant servers becus they can slam nubs in pvp with a fresh start to get higher rating.

top ratings to merc and ap pt kiting gods in solo q , you'll know 1 when you see 1.