The pvp is totally the best, bioware makes the best ever games. No high dps counter classes are op at all and cc is great! I love this. Balanced classes and interesting pvp is not really need nor is open world pvp, this will b highly successful and you will not all be on 3 servers in a few months. GG

Ok do I need to be on drugs to understand that, sounds cool though.

Mostly I agree with the potential part. PVP needs to realize its potential and learn from the mistakes of the past instead of introducing new problems. MMO must consider all parties, PVE, story/leveling and PVP to be well rounded and successful. Your wrong about the server populations, FATMAN has same issues and has been full for weeks.

No I have not but maybe I would like to.

Never saw so many threads closed so fast ever. /cheers have a beer

Whats wrong with FATMAN chat, we cover a wide variety of topics! du nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh FATMAN.......FATMAN........FATMAN!

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PVP. World PVP. Less fan-bois (ban them now.) Resolve fixed. Less CC, more prostitutes and beer.

Wow a faceless noob defending like a fan-boi. You sir are responsible for the early demise of this game. Your ilk are beneath acknowledgment! yeah because a 6 vs 8 game is carrying, nvm it had 4 quits. Nooblet.

Lol, must be trolling. Look to be very not happy as a dps commando, oh wait your going to group aoe heal and do massive dps? umm your kidding right.

Thanks for that, I fully plan on coming back for Pvp if they can fix it up. I think swtor could have some really decent pvp even if classes are not perfectly balanced and have counters. Getting people to illum or world pvp would help even more.

He makes valid points. The only other thing I felt need toning down was CC as there is to much loss of character control, and with the damage resist lowered it makes it worse. I have seen these Fan-Bois who are calling Taugrim a whiner destroy many MMO's the DEV's listen to them till the server are empty and it goes FTP. They probably made up most of the PTR, I have seen this happen the same way in other MMO's that would and should have been far more successful. Just as Swtor has the capability to be. They actually want you to unsub and leave them to play it the way they like it and are a minority. True Story.

Fan boi Thread Alert. You are wrong I have played pvp in almost every major mmo since UO alpha, and beta in most others. There are serious issues with PVP. Time to get your head out of the Cloud City Sky. edit: And the excuse thats its new and needs to work balance / bugs out only goes so far, there is all the past of what works and does not work to research and go from. Ilum working ok? Not even on Fatman with full ques. And dont think a full server fixes it Fatman is full and ques for weeks now and nothing going on much in Illum, and same current 1.2 PVP issues.

/signed Bought Swtor after leveling up a bit in 2 week trial. Had been missing Wow after being away from it a year but Swtor patch 1.2 looked like swtor might shape up for pvp. So I bought swtor. Played as a Commando on Fatman , I knew of the upcoming nerfs but like the challenge of surviving as an underdog. So I leveled to 50 a couple days before patch (half pvp half story quests), then I pvped all day yesterday (happily unemployed) got the BM gun and 3 BM armor pieces. (had 1k 1k saved) and did all the dailys and weeklys for pvp. Just to find PVP had suddenly become very little fun and was in fact worse. Quitters biggest problem, on first rush if 2 points were not capped or 1st score in Huttball 9 out of 10 times 1-2 people quickly quit with more following soon after. 2 Bugs - 1 is we are still getting 7 vs 8 player games I think where the last slot never fills, and the ui refresh still shows 7 and i count physically 7 Rep vs 8 imp, this happened multiple times. Another bug was random that if you joined a game in progress that someone had quit from, you would receive NO medals even though you definitely earned them. The fact that the rewards are cheaper in tokens is in reality opposite as the gain is so little from 0-30 for losses mostly due to quitters. I do not understand why they did not add the delay for rejoining the que after quitting or a disconnect (cheat) There is no reason for even players who want to try hard to stay other than waste their time. And the same CC's that were an issue where you lose control of character are worse now since the expertise is decreased for damage resistance. I personally understand why i got killed fast, but I see well geared people on Rep side dropping like flys, while slightly better geared imps are only getting little nicks. There was a lot of info on the merits of MMO's and the loss of character control, and how people do not like it if its over a certain amount, and its way over the top in this, maybee the devs should read up on it! I hope they fix this up for the ones that are love swtor, i wanted it to be my pvp mmo, but even my worse day on my low survivability enhance shaman was 5 times more rewarding than I felt yesterday. Unsubbed till 1.3 , Cataclysm purchased. Please fix your PVP for your subscribers they deserve it!

Yeah, I agree with the 35+ going dps to level. I put just enough in Gunnery to get Grav and the rest into Combat Medic. But between PVP and leveling I am just going to go DPS at 36.