Why are you bringing my personal life into this? Can you please stay on topic. Thanks.

You say it like it's a bad thing? Not everyone can spend their hard earned money on everything, or their parents money.

In your opinion.

Wrong section. Should be in off topic or star wars discussion

Nothing to be happy about. You shouldn't be saying "well this game is gonna stick around!", you should be asking "What is the future of this game?" $165 million last year? We all know that was mainly due to the cash shop. And that money is going straight into EA's pocket. This is obvious due to the underwhelming amount of playable content updates, especially with PVP. SWTOR's budget was like $200 million? You'd expect a lot more from EAware if they earn more than 3/4 their original budget last year. You'd expect loads more content.

That's not an answer. That's an excuse.

Yet you can't provide a valid source saying that the CM isn't the main income for this game. Yet everyone knows here that the CM saved swtor, along with f2p. You can keep trying, it's amusing seeing your desperation despite having lost the argument at the start.

Strike 2? I've already won the argument. The very fact you asked for a source on common knowledge means you've lost. Would you like a ladder for that hole?

That's your opinion though. And if you actually bothered to read through the thread, looking at various sources in the thread, instead of simply reading the title then maybe you'd realise. Your move. ps. You don't believe that the cartel market is the main income of this game, because you're asking for a source for it. I automatically win, but you can keep trying to dig yourself out.

Seems like it.

Then I guess that's just your opinion ^ You're free to view facts as opinions or opinions as facts. That's just the way you personally interpret things, even though you may be in the minority.

aren't* Really? Am I the first person you've met who knows the difference between opinions and facts? I'm glad I could educate you

Hey Reno you might not believe me but the Earth isn't shaped like a triangle. Would you like a source for this fact?

Yup, it's your own personal opinion.

It's a fact that the CM is the main income of this game. Are you really denying that fact? You're asking for a source on common knowledge? oh my.

Well the CM is a money grab. It's the only thing keeping this game online. That's a fact. Not an opinion.

Stay on topic please. This isn't a matter of opinion. I was just wondering where it is/why it isn't in the game. Also I never said I despise it. So please stop with your ridiculous assumptions.

Have they added them to the Grub Market yet? I fancy myself one of these.

Probably not, they're too busy making cartel market stuff

Wasn't that after F2P?

2.5+ years swtor peaked at 2 months and dropped

People have been playing the game for 5 years, people are getting older, getting bored of the game, of course it will lose subscribers eventually. All things come to an end eventually. People played swtor for 3 months and left, no doubt because of the lack of end game content.

Again, WoWs subscribers never dropped once in like 5 years. SWTOR dropped about 70% in 3 months.

Ah, that clarifies things. Of course, it can be your opinion that the world is shaped like a cucumber, even though you're wrong about it. You stopped playing WoW for SWTOR? Well damn, I guess that confirms it! I mean, if you did, then everyone else did! Obviously! And by the graph you showed me, Wows subscribers were rising for 5 years and didn't drop. SWTOR lost like 70% of them in 3 months, mainly due to the fact there was nothing to do end game. Cheers.

Okay, can you show me your evidence for this? Also if the majority of MMOers are okay with having single player content in an MMO, how come this game with one of the biggest IPs in gaming/movie history, flooped soon after launch? Why did all those hundreds and thousands of players leave within 2 months of launch? Did they get bored of the game? I will answer this for you. It's because there was no end game content, there was no multiplayer stuff to do to keep them playing with their friends.