Just like it says, we need more balance, the nim dps checks in some ops are incredibly ridiculous and if you don't bring a class like PT or Sniper you barely have a chance of beating the checks A gap of 900-1k dps between the highest parsers (engineering) and lowest (jugg/guards) is pathetic /signed

I guess it's time to learn! Lol, I'm trying really really hard to stick with my jugg. But our damage is so low, its hard, especially when There is even one PT in the group they make us look like crap lol, at least we have our AoE lol

Just hit a 6100 this morning, I hate you, BTW, alacrity adrenals may be a thing

so basically what you are saying is RIP juggs on that fight? i actually have not done any nightmare yet, but i am starting to put together my gear for my PT, may be worth switching to rage for brontes? at least for the burn phase?

I had 7500 one night, dps was low and he enraged, and we wiped at 50k

lol, just hit a 6017 on the 1.5, still using elite comm implants and revanite relics

Ry, not sure if you have tested, and I haven't had the time yet, BUT do to. The change with the set bonus with our 6 piece would it be worth using our slam to generate are 2 savagery stacks? Then the opener would look like this (Precast x2) Vengeful Slam> saber throw>leap> enrage> FS> Inpale> ravage>shatter> SA> Ravage> VT> FS

UL, both lol, and bulo, 4.0

Good guide bud, oh and please beat my bulo parse Edit: I can't get close to your UL parse, and I hate you

Yeah, figured, not going to worry about the 220, I'll wait and get the 224

Ry?! Any idea on the dps difference with a 216 mh going to a 220? I'd assume it's pretty negligible

Believe my mastery stimmed is 5179, and power is around 2300, I'll post tonight wheni login go give you exact values

:D:DD love it

You can use saber throw at 0-30 meters.......

Well I added another 250 crit which puts me at 1450, and 5 alacrity augments (365) with the new SB, I did one parse before raid because that's all I had time for, and I hit 5700, the APM was a bit low with alacrity but the crit was there, 50% on the parse, I only have the 216mh right now, I probably won't parse more until I have the 224 though

id say we cant say anything yet until you have the new 6 piece, with the crit changes and the new 4 piece bonus, that should be a pretty big boost, I just got my last set piece last night and will parse today with results, im running about 1200 crit right now, but thinking I may add more

Never, EVER has ravage/master strike(blade dance) been that much of our total damage in a parse, before 3.0 it was 24-28% with the 8% damage increase with the SB, but the SB after 3.0 takes that away, and it became 21-23% of our total parse damage, the dot boost was needed, and in 4.0 this is a FLAT dps INCREASE for jugs/guardians. and don't judge a player by what the parse numbers are anyways, we were practically bottom of the barrel last tier and plenty of people still cleared content with them once again "pick the player, not the class"

Was good raiding with ya, though it was short lived, hope you enjoy raiding back on JC, and as much as I hate to say it, I may be switching to Merc as my main progression toon, guess we will see you 'round bud

I have a plan based around 220-224 gear, but don't know how I'm going to juggle it in 216s we will see in a few days I guess

Basically a complete mix of augs, a mix of crit, accuracy, alacrity, and mastery/power as far as dps augmenting goes, haven't read anything about tanking though yet, but most of the tank gear is heavy defense, so I'd assume mainly a mix of absorb and shield augments to get the proper distribution

WOOHOO!, another guardian/jug in the community!

Abberrations do now too?, or they always did and I never noticed them lol

:eek: I cant tell you how many times I have done that LOL, still funny every time, at least now its a cakewalk

if you find yourself using assault that often you are doing something majorly wrong, enrage's primary use is to give you a FREE 6 rage, on a 45 sec CD, considering the full rotation lasts 12 seconds, typically with 3 different variations depending on a bit of RNG with proc'ing your VT, Assault might, MIGHT be used 2-3 times during the entire duration of a 1million hp dummy parse, if the rotation is done correctly assault is never used if you look at this 500k I just linked (don't have a recent 1mill to post). The only other filler ability typically used is Force push, seeing as that does higher damage than assault and generates rage rather than using it, and saber throw is a core part of the Vengeance rotation... so not sure where you get that from

would do you some good to read the two sticky threads in this forum from rydarus and vesev, alacrity is a thing, many people run full alacrity builds while sacrificing main stat/power