Yeah to be honest i dont think ill run thru the whole thing again,just finished the chapters on my bh and when i get to the choose character screen i really,really dont want to login with him and run more heroics. Now im just working on the 3 classes i still have to finish and then ill see,but yeah i agree with everything you guys said,its just atleast for me an oversaturation of heroics plus the fact of getting more companions which will remain in a limbo since im using my Akk for normal stuff. Seems Bioware has lost its compass...or maybe they got something planned that we dont know about *shrug*

Is it just me or the whole grinding missions just to get companions is a bit...ehhm bland? I mean the items from the turnins arent really that good,presents and gear that really i wont be using since the RNG is all over the place and i get a lot of gear that doesnt match my class. Its just that we already got more than enough companions,is there something else im missing? because apart from the companions (which i dont need) and the extra marks (yeah yeah to get better gear) is there something else that makes all this grinding worthwhile?

Thanks for the info guys,much apreciated...was feeling kinda overwhelmed with all the content in that area hehe

So i just hit 65 and ive been doing all the chapters of KotFE,so far im at chapter 8 or 9 i think,not sure. Im in the cantina area and i saw a terminal which gives acess to a lot of different heroics from different planets so i choose all from a random planet and it seems i get marks and then these purple boxes i turn in for rep?¿ with each of the 4 npcs over in the area below the cantina (Hutt,military guy,smuggler and force sensite woman). When i turn those in i get two items from a box i need to open,one is a random piece of adaptive gear and the other is a present for companions. Should i be doing this to get my character geared up? best gear ive seen in the vendors in that map is 208,for now i just want to get decent gear so i can run heroic fp's once in a while. Is there any other purpose to getting rep with the 4 different npcs besides the marks? is there any rep vendor that offers cosmetic stuff like mounts,pets,etce,etc? Tried looking for a guide of some sort in google but havent found any,would apreciate if someone could point me in the right direction. Thanks

¡ wow....18 letters in caps,your eyes/ears ok? Yeah i used caps because those few words were important,heart is ok dont worry about me,im fine although the condescending tone you're using with me isnt,but hey go ahead and rail on me with your witty humour,you actually remind me of this: Time 2:57,enjoy.

*hands over Aloe Vera* Ouch town population: The OP

Beh...could care less,just another naysayer (Doom and Gloom) that has way to much free time to be messing around with guild number statistics and so on,seriously when was the last time you logged in and just had fun?

Hahaha good one,forgot about that quote.

Harsh? maybe,but well deserved,this person hasnt been appointed by anyone,he doesnt speak in anyones behalf nor has he contacted EVERY PLAYER that plays the game to find out their thoughts on the current state of the game so hence me saying his "WE" is BS,its a ME with a cherry on top.

So basically you saying its ok to stalk just because you tracking metric numbers? Yeah try that with the cops....no sir i wasnt stalking,just using high powered binoculars because i really care and tthis tools give me a better view. Attentive to guild numbers? ah how cute we have a little Dustin Hoffman card counting character in our midsts...

And you think this entitles you to something? To quote Ash: "Well hello Mister Fancypants. Well, I've got news for you pal, you ain't leadin' but two things right now: Jack and ****, and Jack left town."

Who is this "we" you speak of? Cant be me,or it cant be the 200 guild members we have in my guild because oh would you look at that NONE of us pvp so i guess that proverbial "we" you use so much its just a ME right? ^^^Nothing to see here folks,another MENOW throwing a tantrum. P.S:MENOW=Current generation of whinny cry baby gamers that crave instant gratification,i call them Menows,because its all about ME ME ME and NOW NOW NOW

Wow....so you basically play a game where your role is of a stalker? Yeah sure not creepy at all...

Well thought and written post. Now one thing we are not discussing is the huge difference between sandbox mmos and theme park mmos,i tend to compare this difference using Legos....now now hear me out because i think this will get my point across. Now its almost impossible to find legos that are just that,the blocks,the rest depends on you,you must build whatever you want,you have no designs,no instructions....nothing,now this was when i was a kid (born in 75). These days all you get is your IP based Legos like Star Wars and you just make a ship or any type of vehicule. There is no way to "spark" your imagination and do whatever you want,just a static set of pieces and wam bab thank you maam you're all set.Have your ship or vehicule but really just followed some instructions and never deviated of the marked path. This can all be applied to theme park mmos,there is no choice (apart from class and role) so you're basically Dorethy following the yellow brick road. Swg wasnt perfect but it gave you the choice to level whichever way you wanted,you could just be a dedicated crafter and open a shop,you could rp as a smuggler and slice armour and weapons and the list goes on and on,this is what i miss. Just recently came back after a long break...well mostly because the new Star Wars movie is coming out and i just wanted to get back into the "feeling" of playing in a Star Wars based game and yes im having fun for now but i still have that thought in the back of brain that im just following a "tour" and basically there isnt anything for me to do about it,walk the same road as everyone else,same progression scheme that has plagued mmos these past years. Level up,reach cap,run normal dungeons/flahspoints then heroic dungeons/flashpoints and then if you into it you raid....thats it there is no bucket of gold at the end of the rainbow. Beh who knows *shrug* maybe all this wall of text is the ramblings of an old burn out fart who just doesnt enjoy playing mmos anymore. Well anyway thanks for reading. P.S:English isnt my native language so sorry for any misspeling,punctuation or grammar mistakes.

Yeah yeah blabber all you want about the old timers but older i mean much older mmos had a ton of features that would make "new" mmos hide in shame....yes Swtor im looking at you and you're pathetic atempt of a crafting system...look back at Swg with the best craftng system ever and all we get here is a clickfest with no depth whatsoever. MMos have evolved and not for the best,new mmo playing comunity is one the worst i have ever seen,all filled with lazy ***** morons who are all about ME ME ME and NOW NOW NOW hence me coming up with a nickname of them,i call them MENOWS. So you can kid youself all you want but the grind is a major pillar of an mmo,take that away and what do you get? A level 65 player in a fp who doesnt know that he could cc a mob for 60 seconds,yeah ths is what we get. So i welcome tougher content,i welcome comps that arent OP,maybe this way we willl get the players to actually have to play the game,read the skill/power descriptions a actually use them when needed. Tuskenkiller out!!

For me my all time favourite has to be Treek,let her die on purpose imagining she is my ex mother in law,she looks about the same rofl. Nah in all seriousness im really fond of Treek,leveling a BH at the moment and Blizz is also pretty cool,dont know if i will finish the class story on my BH thou,arsenal is just sooo boring,rotations seems to be made for chimps to play.

I can vouch for that,back in the day Ragnarok was a true grindfest,cant believe how many hours i spent leveling my characters hehe. Now they complain about the grind in Swtor? they really have it easy these days,they should go play Ragnarok or Lineage then come back and then lets see if their opinion changes.

"All these nerfs then buffs" You serious? wow....i mean wow!! Im assuming you never played an mmo before...I mean you musnt have if you make a comment as ridiculous as this,mmo are like living creatures,they evolve and change,either learn to adapt or leave,as simple as that. "lag" Hmm what lag? not everyone is experiencing lag,not even in Alde,was there earlier and nothing,smooth as butter. "outdated gaming mechanics, graphics" Compared to what? There is only so much you can do with mmo gaming mechanics,its the way it is and will always be,either play something like this or go to DCUO,you can use a controller and just have 8 skills you can use. What you want a complete engine overhaul and a complete change of the game mechanics? yeah not going to happen... P.S:Nice dropping of the word "founder",entitled much?

With your posting attitude im not suprised you have to beg for help,you lack the human empathy to even make friends online do you? Sad state of the current playerbase to be honest,you are a part of a big demographic of mmo players that have created the cesspool we have today,here let me copy and paste what i wrote in another topic,its a clear description of you,your attitude and well basically all that you have shown me by the tone of your posts: Face it,you're a MENOW MENOW=New generation of players who is all about ME ME ME and NOW NOW NOW,so i came up with a name for them and its MENOW,hope you like it. Been playing mmos since the start,and i mean the first mmos and i gotta say the mmo gaming comunity has been getting worst and worst,hey maybe its just me,you know with age comes certain personaly traits like being wise,respect,patience,etc,etc....those are the same one's the MENOW's seem to be lacking.

Seems to me you're more of a DCUO type of guy,go play that since you basically have only 8 skills to worry about and you can use a controller,me nah i gave DCUO a try and it was so tedious and boring that it was like if a yawn could yawn. But please dont ask to dumb down this already easy enough game and make it simpler than it already is,if you find it to "difficult" then you are a console guy,give DCUO a try,this is not the game for you.

You do know what MMORPG stands for right? Doesnt mean i am FORCED to group with you it just means a virtual world where people play the game but MMO doesnt mean i am obligated to group with you or anyone else,people play mmos for different reasons,some like to be rich so they craft and farm,others only pvp,some pvp and pve,others just for the social aspect so it is insulting that you come here acting all mighty and telling us how we should play the game,i pay for my sub so ill do as i please,the day you pay for my sub you may tell me how to play until then worry about yourself and stop acting like a self righteous know it all. P.S:Ninja invites? Yeah clearly your parents lacked the time or patience to teach you good manners.ASK FIRST then send invite...

Yup,couldnt agree more.

Best post ever,seriously made me swell up and remember the good old days... Not much i can say,from all the mmos ive played SWG is the only one that still remains in my heart. P.S:Hard to believe that a game that was released in 2003 still had one of the BEST crafting systems ever implemented in any mmo,even by todays standards,i mean open a real shop where you could sell your crafts? Yeah im tired of theme park mmos where they hold your hand to go everywhere,no wonder this generation of mmo gamers is getting more lazier and dumber by the minute.

You clearly have never played Lineage,Ragnarok or any other Korean mmo,go play those for a month or two then come back and I DARE you to say Swtor is "grindy"....

And yet here we are,what people fail to realise is that mmo's are like living organisms,they evolve and change now if an mmo changes and it is no longer "fun" (definition of fun varies for everyone) then its time to move on. Ive done so with countless games,only people i bothered say bye to were my guildies and friends,apart from that I NEVER posted in the forums why i was leaving,just not that sort of guy but you on the other hand well you are just your just a typical garden variety MINOW,nothing bad with that,guess its what goes for being cool in mmo's these days...