In Ziost it seemed to me she said that in more of a critical in a protective way, which is not too far off from her character. in KoTFE in certain convos she mentions she cares more about the Player Character surviving over her own life, but said it critically at first like 'you should not have done that'. Maybe that's just her way of caring.
As for the second case, I believe she mentions she does not believe in fate which I would assume would include "force guidance'. That's likely just her saying 'I don't want to hear it', basically.