They pretty much hinted about operative healers as well. hmm, I wonder how the outcome could be neutral...

Well; I for one am glad you at least showed the maturity to make this thread. It is paramount to maturity to tell everyone else how much they act like children. One thing though. Do you think maybe that people stick around and continue to point out flaws in this game might just be because they do like this game, and would just like it to be handled better and improved so they continue to enjoy the game? Just think maybe a mature poster like you could give a decent answer on this because I personally think they are all just spoiled brats.

That is true and I expect that to be the best tool for a while, until Bioware decides to add a quitter debuff rather than address the reasons people are really quitting.

LMAO! Well; sorry PUGs. Can't split up the queues any more. Hey. At least you don't have to win to complete your daily. That's all that really matters, right?

Are you saying you were Qing as a 4 man and got stuck in reg arenas against PUGs? If so; that is another storm that is due to come. The premades vs PUG debate will continue and be possibly more serious than ever.

hmm Hope they don't go the SWG balancing cycle where each class got a balance patch 2 at a time, then the next ones were not until the next patch. It did at least keep FOTM fresh as there was usually something new for a few weeks. I guess at least you don't have to PvE here to get your jewelry for your new FOTM class.

Yeah, that is pretty telling that they do not understand the real joy of PvP and that is competition and real conflict. The killing other players is just a side effect of that. Some people probably are happy as long as they can just kill other players, but others want a bit more depth and strategy. A little more purpose beyond just getting their next set of gear. A greater sense of it being a war rather than a street fight. Most things the devs say about PvP, they probably wouldn't if they stopped and replaced a PvP term with a PvE one. "The reason why there is not as much PvE content is PvEers are generally happy, "as long as there is some NPC to kill"

snares and roots are another problem on their own. They should be resisted by full resolve bars, IMO. Maybe the snares and roots should not add to resolve still, but at least resisted once there.

The solo-ranked Q gives ranked comms, i am told. That would be enough and there are people who want team deathmatch. I'm not one of them, but I am good with them having that choice. Unlike some people who don't want others to be able to chose on something that they obviously do not participate in at all.

Thank you sir

Randle; how far are you on leveling your marauder?

He is referring to being on full resolve, and the half HP is not that big of deal these days with all the healers around to catch you. Not to mention that in the time UR lasts, with the DPS flying around, you likely were to lose as much HP from as many hits get you in that time, anyway.

Hmm Put on a tin foil hat and maybe they are trying to drive people away from 8v8 warzone? Maybe that will be the next pvP thing they remove. One day, they will realize their goal of only being dueling in this game.

This. There have been plenty of calm, respectful opinions on this that this poster is seemingly trying to make them more emotional about the situation, and I am debating on whether some of their posts should be reported as trolling.

LOL Yeah, it ironically has not changed much. Just the one spec took the brunt of that nerfing.

Actually; this is true. In arenas you are there to simply kill other players. In warzones that is just a side effect as you are actually there to win the match first and foremost. You mean, you do class story quests to kill NPCs, but in operations you don't? See how that works?

Well; you probably can't convince Bioware any more than you can convince their apologists on the forums. Might as well just quit the match when you see an arena. That will either make them realize how much people want to be able to just do the 8v8, or they will more likely make another mistake with a quitter debuff because they are so determined to not give people what they want in the name of metrics.

Carnage is my favorite. Although, I have not played my Marauder since prior to smash being complained about. Back then, it was annihilation, force camo and undying rage that were cried about.

I don't think you get it. Its not just team size and map. 8 man warzones had objectives (ironic, no?) that you had to capture and defend. Arenas do not have that. They are just a team deathmatch. How is having objectives vs not having them not a change in objectives? It's the equivalent of me telling you that your PvE mission of just clicking a box to activate something is the same as a boss fight.

Stopped reading there because that part is completely wrong. The objectives ARE in fact, a major thing that is changed.

Understood about Q times, but couldn't you just not split it and have just arenas in the solo ranked and just the other Warzones in the regular solo Q we have had? Still only 3 Qs. It's not going to help Q times when people are just quitting when they get the warzone type they don't want.

Whats the payout on ranked?

Looking at the answers to merc and shadow, that may not be a good idea to roll a marauder now. May not be a good idea for people to start rolling snipers or operative healers, either. Maybe I'm reading between the lines too much.

Why would they listen to anyone here. They clearly know better than the vocal minority. /sarcasm or /trolling

Ahh then nevermind on that point. lol