True. They definitely want to make more money. I didn't really plan on playing the event anyways because Im not making 8 new toons when I have 20 or so that are 60-65 and I've played all the content so playing it over and over and over again is just overkill and a great way to make people hate the game

Probably will just sit and play regularly since I don't feel like making another 8 characters when I can just play the 20 or so that I already have.

Okay so I've been playing since the game released. I have over 20 characters, all above level 60 and now this event is just trying to get new players it seems. I've invested so much time in my characters and now I won't even be able to participate because I have already played everything and completed all of these requirements. So, I can't get any of the titles, the armor, or anything because I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR MANY YEARS? Great idea. It seems a lot of people have the same issue. I'm not making 8 NEW characters, getting them to 65 and then playing the gree event etc. Now I know maybe some people think that "omg you don't need to do it or anything" but I want to do this event because I love to collect stuff, especially rewards that you can only get once. However, again, I've already invested so much time in this game and I can't even get these rewards because Im not playing new characters. I spent hours leveling characters, gearing them, and all that yet they can't even contest in the event. Great job

Title.

Sure and then a jugg or mara jumps on you, stuns, and unloads ravage and you're dead.

Thanks and Ill read this. Its really sad that this game caters to people who can't think and process information on the fly.

I'm just upset because I put hours upon hours learning how to be really good with this class. The GS/Sniper is by far my favorite class and my best class to play on. I can 1v1 any class and depending on their skill level, destroy them. And even though I can still perform at pretty good levels, the nerf made me like the class less. I rarely play SS anymore and instead I play DF because of sustained damage and Wounding Shots does a **** load of damage when you pop Illegal Mods and Smuggler's Luck and Hem Blast. Hell, a few days ago someone called me a hacker because when I roll in DF, you get the little fire pool that slows and he was ************ how I was "cheating" because him and his team couldn't use a breaker to cleanse the slow. That and because I wooped his ***. I don't really understand why they continue to nerf GS when it's such a weak class. They're glass cannons essentially. I can't really play my GS thoroughly without a healer. I get your point though. GS is very powerful if a skilled player uses the class. And sometimes can be pretty hard to kill one too if they know what they're doing. The dev team needs to stop listening to non-vets and pay more attention to the, I kinda hate to say this, ranked players and vets who have been playing the game for years. I love SWTOR and all but it really sucks *** that they keep catering to the new players who haven't really played to see classes go through their up and downs. Yeah it can do at least some damage, but it's not up to par with what it should be. Again, GS should have super high damage. GS can't move around and do damage, so I dont see the problem. Take Bastion from Overwatch for example. Does extremely high damage, however, is stationary and easy to kill. Thats what a GS is in a nutshell.

Its pretty sad that in PvP my commando can kill things much better than my GS when I play SS. I can get my Demo round to do upwards of 25-26k... Boltstorm can do upwards of 8k on crits... Yet my GS struggles to hit any of that? I just feel it should be opposite. GS/Sniper should be the highest DPS/damaging class in the game since they are pretty immobile. I love the **** out of my GS because I love the turret type of role it plays, but I'd rather play my commando who doesn't even have full 208 PvP gear w/ augs and is doing more damage than my GS who has full 208's and augs. I wish we could have that nerf removed because it really really really hurt gunslinger. Im going to continue to "complain" about the nerf because it was really overkill. If they had nerfed damage by 5-10% it probably would've been justified but they didn't. I mean, right after it happened, people said they lost 500-1000 DPS. The only reason I want GS SS to be buffed is because whenever I play my GS, I feel extremely weak against teams with good healers/multiple healers. Before the nerf I was able to take out targets through heals, which, imo is a pretty good "utility." Anywho, thats all I have to say

Not to mention it was like a hashtag that was 10 words long

This mara called me a hacker because I used my AOE slow that I get from roll. I love when players dont know class abilities. Its so funny. He said that his entire team thought I was hacking. https://gyazo.com/33a978a5731c5759bff35beef4eca665 GS proof: https://gyazo.com/8436a16143d44a80a297a94f3ef6e6c0 Proof of DF: https://gyazo.com/8a8e4eb873ce0dde5325d121c6ad4f5d Anyways, I thought I would just post this here for anyone else who needs a laugh

After the nerfs to SS, I've found that I feel exceptionally weak on my GS in PvP. A few days ago I decided to switch over to DF and try it out and I think I love it again. I'm able to put hurt on players and not to mention dot spread is so nice. Before nerfs, I was hitting almost 3.5k DPS on SS. See http://i.imgur.com/u4wxd9x.jpg However after the nerfs, Im only able to hit around 2.5 - 2.7k DPS on a GOOD game. After switching to DF, I got this amazing game: http://i.imgur.com/lewht8k.jpg Granted, I did have dots running pretty much the whole game but still, its way better than I thought. Wounding shots does a bunch of damage if you couple Smuggler's Luck, Illegal Mods and Hemhorraging Blase together. With this combo, I can take a sorc from 100% to about 45% health. I will say that Im having much more fun on my GS after switching to DF. I can kill things! Well, I could kill things before but it wasn't this much fun Anyways, if you're looking for a good spec to try out, just play around with DF and see how it works for you I would love it if SS got buffed but... I don't forsee that because people were complaining about our dmg

In my opinion, I believe that most people that are angry are DPS. However, I've experienced it from other people like healers as well. I will admit, I have been toxic before. However, I had good reason. Try running a easy groupfinder op with 2 healers, but only one healer is actually healing. Me and my guildies got a pug commando healer. At the start, I was basically solo healing my group. Us guildmates were in TS, and we were bashing him for not doing anything. Eventually we said something. He didn't leave which was a good sign. After we told him to look for certain abilities and to only heal, he began healing. By the end of the OP, he was healing like a champ and I could relax and not have to panic so much. We of course apologized for being rude and invited him to join our guild. This is a case of good toxicity in my opinion. The other player learned what they did wrong and began correcting it. However, most of the time, I get mad myself at players that do NOT listen to people that know how to play the game. How many times have I ran FPs, OPs and PvP and I try to help someone and they just blow me off because "I don't know what I'm talking about" even though I've been playing since launch and have every class and can play each class fairly well. The best thing to do in this situtation, is just ignore, and leave. No reason to stay in a group that does that. Hell, one time I got kicked from a FP because I was telling a sentinel how to play the class, because he was playing it incorrectly. Also, someone on page 1 has a link to a youtube video. That's pretty much a healers life right there. I main heals for OPs and thats what happens if I'm not running with guildies. People love to blame healers instead of themselves. It's quite sad because usually the people talking trash are complete garbage at playing their class. One time me (Healing) and one of my best guildies (tanking) did an ops. This one sentinel pulled bosses, died about 10 times for no reason, etc. At the end of the raid, we called him a ******* and said he needed to learn how to play better. We pointed out his issues and he just got so angry and started talking trash. Then he began challenging me to a 1v1, which honestly was pathetic because he's not very good at following directions, so what makes him able to kill someone in a duel? Personally when I play a dps and I die, usually its my fault. But, if I did everything correctly, then I usually look to the healer. I've done FPs and Raids with healers that stand there and wait until people are almost dead and then start spamming deliverance. Or people that spam one heal the entire time and we end up dying. Just my thoughts

Im stuck here.... I can get to the PLAY button. When I press it, it looks as if its launching but when I look in Task Manager, it basically just closes out. Awesome! Love it! I was able to log in earlier this morning and right before the new patch, but since the new patch, can't even log in. GFG

It could be that too. Im really upset because this is a huge nerf to my damage and now my damage is super weak. A 5-10% nerf would've been okay but 20% imo is just too much

I understand that people felt SS was a little OP, but reducing our crit damage by 20% is a little harsh. It needed a slight tone down, because my slinger could basically 4 shot a sorc if they weren't paying attention but now i feel weak in pvp. I still do my 2.9k-3k DPS average with about 2 mil damage avg per game but my attacks feel weak now. I have 70% surge and boy am I glad i took that. I can still hit for 22k-23k on Ambush with autocrit but without that, my ambush can only hit for 10K. Our damage output was basically reduced to pre-4.0. Pre-4.0, my sniper with autocrit was hitting 17-18ks. I feel like all of the sorcs in this game *****ed and whined because a sniper could out play them. I can tell you that a sorc can easily outplay a sniper but most just stand there and let them burst them to death. I feel like it was all the healing sorcs because let me tell you, even against a team that had 2-4 healing sorcs, i could easily kill one at a time because my damage output + healing debuff negated alot of their effective heals. But whenever i play my sorc and im fighting against a sniper, I can easily live through it. There's this thing called LOS...

Class - Sorc Gear Level - 208 w/ 208 Augments (PvP Gear) Companion - Pierce Influence - 22 Level - 65 ------------------------------------------------------------------- I did the Heroic 2+ Nar Shaddaa Star Fortress in my PvP gear with Pierce. I was healing and he was tanking. I will say that it did take me a while to kill the Exarch and Elite mobs. However, overall, it seems pretty okay. Pierce did die once during the Exarch fight but that was my fault. I feel like companions are balanced but there are lots of problems with how the AI works. I ran Tactical Red Reaper Solo on my 64 Guardian as Vigi with Kira Healing me. She has 12 influence. I did die about 4-5 times because she would just stop healing me. I don't understand why healing comps STOP HEALING YOU when they have A HEAL THAT HAS NO COOLDOWN? Sometimes she would spam her channeled heal over and over and then she would stop and stand there. Also, the heals weren't enough for her to heal me and her through high damage output from mobs. Many times i would leap in, start attacking and then a bunch of mobs started attacking her so i taunted, kept dot spreading and attacking but she kept getting hammered and she kept dying from weak mobs. However today I was on Yavin on my healing sorc once again and i was world pvping against 2 of my guildies to see if they could kill me. There was a mara and a sin there that joined us and eventually the Mara, Sin and I just started attacking the Temple Ruins Champion Droids. I believe the mara had a INF 50 Lana Beniko or something because I didnt have to heal him at all. Both the Sin and Mara were grouped and they both had Lana out. The Sin only had like INF 7 on Lana. Their HP would go from 45% - 100% in a matter of seconds. I was truely awestruck at how they were being healed through attacks from these Champion Guards. Also, when we were fighting my guildies, the Mara and Sin's healing comps kept them alive. It was truely amazing watching the mara and sin not die from my guildies. I wasn't healing them at all and they just wrecked my guildies who also had healing comps out. Companions are still powerful in world PvP though. I was on Courscant today and there was a sin on there (Hes still there from the 4.0 bug that got patched but hes still there somehow??) and we were fighting. I had my kira out and he had his khem val out. His khem val kept him alive pretty damn well too because I couldn't kill him. >>However, even though they're still somewhat powerful, they DONT need another nerf. Possibly fix your stupid AI first.<<

I got to 93.15% and it said downloading with 0.01KB/s. Then i restarted my game a few times and all the sudden its downloading at like 13MB/s and so on. I had to restart it a few times because it kept not downloading like at all. We'll see how long this lasts...

I have both an op healer and a sorc healer and I prefer sorc healing to op healing because Sorcs have better burst healing and i can basically carry teams because my heals are more effective than op healing. On my op, I have a hard time keeping people alive because hots just are meh to me. I've been playing sage healing since i started the game and the recent healing buffs in like 3.1 or so really helped increase their overall healing output. I still quite adore playing my operative and scoundrel it's just that I'd rather play my sorc. Especially in premades because i can almost guarentee that i can keep a guildie alive on my sorc but on my op its kind of an iffy.

I wish i could play my Slinger and Sniper in ranked because i hit like a truck in regs with them. But they're too stationary

Hottie while i agree with most of your comments, sorc is not just a pick up and be op healer. I play many games with sorc and sage healers and they are trash. They don't even break 2k HPS which is the easiest thing in the world as a sorc OR an op. I hardly ever see decent numbers as well from them. Usually they only hit 1.7 mil where as a good sorc healer can do 2.5-3mil healing with 4k-5k HPS. They are definitely easy to play, but being a good and skilled sorc healer takes learning and understanding how to kite, when to use bubble, how to use phase walk and how your abilities tie into one another. For example, roaming mend in my opinion is used as a fast burst heal rather than an on damage heal. Another one is that you should be spamming the crap out of innervate as it is by far your best heal. Just little things that all tie into each other that make you stand out. But again i do agree they are easy to play but i dont think they should be nerfed. Harbinger has many sage and sorc healers but only a handful or so are really actually GOOD sorc healers.

(Fore warning - I apologize for caps but they needed to stand out!) Do you not understand how REGS MATCHES WORK? Ok lets look at this: I play Sorc heals. Yes, i can tank 4-5 players IF THEY SUCK. Hell sometimes i've tanked almost an entire team but they SUCKED *** AT DAMAGE. The only time i die to 1 person is if they are a good DPS that knows how to use their stuns CORRECTLY. Also, with a tank, i can tank an entire team usually, but thats only with my premade tanks because i know they're good. ALSO, I think you don't realize that people in regs DONT COORDINATE!!!?! Today, i was in a game and i was asking for peels and help with DPS but you know what happened? Everyone said "We don't care" in chat and continued to kill ****. I left and you know what happened? They lost. I even had a tank but he SUCKED! And guess how many DPS it was? 2 or 3 DPS killed me. I couldn't heal through it. A healer dying like a dps IS STUPID. HEALERS ARE THERE TO HELP THE TEAM, NOT BE A WASTE. Yes i understand your frustration, but maybe if you COORDINATED YOUR TEAM TO ATTACK HEALERS IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE!! OH WAIT, WHATS THAT? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT COORDINATION IS? WOW!! IMAGINE THAT! SOMEONE CALLING FOR NERFS BECAUSE OMG I CAN'T 2 SHOT A HEALER AAJKSLDFGASKJT! Have you ever heard of this thing called marking? Guess not? Wow whats new! Sorcs are honestly just fine where they are. At least i can compete in ranked pvp... Also, I don't have a hard time killing healers when i'm in a premade, which is often because i have friends to play with. We always play in mumble and call out who we're attacking. 2 good DPS can easily shut down a sorc healer. A MM Sniper plus a Arsenal Merc = Amazing! Burst is where its at. You need to remove chunks of their health not try to wittle them down with your baby dots. The best way to eliminate a sorc healer is burst. Hit them for 30k Ambush and the merc hits em for 25k Heatseekers = 55k HP gone in 2 abilities. And if you know how to play DPS, your abilities shouldn't have a wait time between them, you should be pressing your next ability before the one you're using finishes. This allows for high DPS and allows your damage to stack. Hell i land 25k ambushes and then a 13k takedown... Thats 38k right there from 2 abilities. So again, take a look at your argument. I don't think you have ever played a sorc healer before. I have TO tank, because my team is stupid and doesn't support me. I usually have to kite the DPS and im always healing myself which allows my DPS and other teammates to die. Thats the role of DPS. If you can't kill the healer, distract it while you kill the other DPS. Please don't post this trash thread again because you need to seriously take a look at both sides.

Yes sin shelter provides 5% extra healing to the HEALER standing in it. It also provides an additional healing buff to those that are being healed while standing in it.

Yes indeed. This match was the perfect match for operative group healing. My entire team stood over our sin shelters and allowed me to drop kolto wave and nanotech on everybody fighting at a node. It was a pretty intense match. The sorc healer really helped. She was really good but my AOE heals really did alot of work.

Link to the match. Full <RAZE> Premade. 1 Sin tank, 1 Sin DPS, 1 Sorc DPS, and 1 Op Healer (Me) http://i.imgur.com/xwdoF9N.jpg 3.9mil Heals done with 4220 HPS and over 1.2mil damage taken through guard. Out healed sorc healer by almost 2mil and over 1000 HPS. Just thought i'd leave this here. And no, it was not an arranged match. It was a legit match!

I play healer sorc/sage and the only class i really have trouble with is AP PT/Tactics VG. Its so annoying. They sit there and run circles around you like you're gonna attack them or something. (They look like ******* imo, i always laugh at them). Usually i can just out heal most PT damage because their burst is SOOOO predictable. Even without LOS, i can still just kite them around once their HO is off cooldown. But some PTs can burst me down super fast. I guess its just because they get RNGesus on their side and just kill me super fast. I've face tanked 1 Balance sage, 1 Assault Commando, and 2 Gunnery Commandos while healing. Granted, i had LOS points, but they tried so hard to kill me and it was just sad. Melee is certainly no issue. Most of them are too worried about getting their strikes off that they don't interupt me. Or if they do, i just kite them around and laugh as i get pelted by 4 people. Best thing is knocking them all back with Electric Bindings and rooting them in place while they watch me heal 2 full. Flash bubble is also my best friend. I love when i get jumped by like 3 maras and i all flash bubble them, pop bubble again and flash em again. The one class that can certainly kill you if you're not paying attention is merc. Nets are such a big issue if you're playing healer. If they're good, they will stun you, wait to you pop breaker and then net you when you're at low health so that you cant bubble and die. One tip i can give to sorc/sage healers struggling out there, is USE RECKLESSNESS/FORCE POTENCY AND YOUR ALACRITY BOOST WHEN YOU'RE IN TROUBLE!!! This saves me SOO much. Pop your force armor/static barrier and pop recklessness and alacrity boost. Try to use Resurgence and Rejuvenate beforehand because 60% boost from reck/pot + 25% from force bending = 85% which is basically gonna crit 100%. With this make sure you use a innervate/healing trance. If you have full dark reaver with augs, you'll probably hit for 4.5k with relic procs on yourself. 4.5k x 4 ticks is huge. Thats almost 20k healing. Then if you can, pop wandering mend with the resurgence buff. Thats another 10k or so heal. This is how i survive high burst. Also make sure you're using LOS and positioning correctly. Sorc healers are pretty easy to kill if you know their weaknesses. DON'T STAND IN THE ENEMY GROUP AND THINK YOU CAN FACE TANK. I see so many people doing this and they end up dying so much. Don't! Just stay in the back and if you get targeted, LOS and kite.