It's getting boring. Tuesday swtor dev ****, now this. Unsubbing just right now cause we won't have any compensation. Biofail, again.

You'd better give 500 additional cartel coins RIGHT NOW to every subbed player instead of beeing ridiculous trying to calm the community down. This is playing time for about 2 hours here, and people will NOT benefit from a full early access and sub is running while your devs are coding with their feet. Biofail is still doing **** and helping his reputation to go on... Nothing more to say, you'll be smashed by any good MMORPG that will be released this year or early 2017. End of the road for you guys, you've thrown by the window the gold you had in your hands : STAR WARS licence for a MMO.

EA is forcing BW to do these kind of crap and make all these bad decisions about the game, that's the only realistic reason they suck so hard on the way they manage, "improve", and make their game evolve. What about reputation tokens for older packs ? What about NEW armor sets, not recolored ones we have already seen a hundred times on NPCs ? What about NEW realistic mounts and weapons and not these awful recolored bad ideas looking like small size toys ? What about textures unification in addition to colors to avoid having brilliant legs, textile boots, metallic helmet and plastic chest ? What about dyes having colors matching together instead of rainbow random things ? What about reusable dyes thanks to collection so older ones are not lost for ever when they came from a very old pack and you need 6 of them to dye everything else than the chest (and don't speak about this f*****g dye grand pack joke) ? What about a system to reverse the dying areas on armors so we can dye it correctly when a dye only exists in one combination (Medium brown/White for example) ? And what means these legacy unlock prices that has been increased to 60, 240 and 400, finally to learn that there will only be new silver and gold items ? Are you hoping that we say "Thank you" when you're acting like we were idiots ? Stop asking your community if it's just to continue like you've always done, saying "we listen to you" and keeping on implementing your stupid ideas. If it's just to ask and not act in consequence, just don't bother to ask, you will earn precious time you could spend on "developping" your game for example!

BW has to read this ! Mirrored classes game, please fix it, it's a 2 minutes time work to be done.

Bump, this is ridiculous in such a mirrored classes game. Please fix it quickly BW, it's really easy to find the coding line and put the same duration for both.

Nice try, better luck next time... Oh wait, there will not be a next time... Definitely goodbye SWTOR ! You are losing more and more players, and I really think you are getting straight in the wall. See ya when the game will be dead, I'll be there laughing and saying "We had told you ... :rolleyes:"

Bump god dammit !

I second this. Fact is that they just don't know how to handle the community, that's all. A CM should be posting at least 2 or 3 messages per day to answer players's questions, but we have days of inactivity and answers to low priority questions (cartel market, leveling concerns, low level gear, what do the devs love to eat, etc ...). About the combat team, they are saying that there is a dialogue between the playerbase and them, but this is high level hypocrisy. They read forums (or not, we can't see the difference), talk to us and then become silent untill new changes come live. We give them answers, we give them feedback, but we don't know if this is acknowledged, ignored, not taken seriously or not possible to do cause they have their own "vision" of the game and that we, players, don't have our word to say on what will be done to improve the game. They are just doing bad communication and don't want to admit it, but we, players, are suffering from this and so is this damn game. Just look how other companies and games are working and handling their playerbase, and learn from that, cause right now, BW is just going head straight in the wall if you don't change your way of thinking and how you manage your game and community.

If you have so many sent/mara at the top of the leaderboards in WZ, it's just because players let them alone for the whole WZ. Because the majority of the sent/mara players still on their char in PvP are good players doesn't mean we are fine, just that these players know how to deal with all the controls, and bad players give us the ability to use our full potential.

Comments and suggestions in red in the quote =) If only dev would read and listen ...

Bump, they wanna play the card of "we do bad communication but when we share our thoughts, you're flaming us, so no more communication", well ok, we will definitely not see the difference. But we will do the same thing, giving ideas, suggestions and feedback in the void is not incentive. There will be no difference if we don't give them feedback anymore.

Ok then ! Please all players here on the game since the release or RotHC, L2P and stop QQ, devs know more than you do how a sent/mara should be played !!! You have been playing your char for, I don't know, thousands of hours, but the dev team knows how to play more than you do, deal with it ! BW, show us some vids tutorials and in game footage when you play a sentinel/marauder in HL content OPs and in PvP against, I don't know, a team full of shadows/sins, sages/sorcs and VGs/PTs like it's often the case ! Do this and show us your almighty skill and knowledge of the class and then we will try to consider your L2P ******** ! Insulting your playerbase after ignoring them for more than 6 months is really a bad idea. Bad devs are bad devs, and bad communication is bad communication !

Blablabla BW ... You are just clueless and don't want to waste time and resources to really rework the specs and our utilities by merging some, making some others baseline, adding new ones and coding our suggestions without your special "destructo" touch before. That's all. Every single post you make to explain us why you are doing all these changes (that will kill the class on the long run) just smells ignorance and laziness to pull your fingers out. I had already lost faith in you with 3.1.2, pretended to be THE "Sent/Mara QoL improvement and rework patch", but now I'm 100% convinced that you are just incompetents, that you don't listen to us at all and that you just don't give a **** about our melee class (oh I know, "We have TWO lightsabers"). Just because you don't know how it's meant to be played, and how it is difficult to compete with other classes right now. You just don't care that you took our class before 3.0 to rework it for SoR, and gave it back to us with 75% of its skills, tools, rotations fluidity and fun we had before. All this for ~20$ + our subs. You are THIEVES, and your community will never forgive you. NEVER. Just keep this in mind.

To everyone losing its time and energy giving some great feedback on the Sent/Mara PTS threads, I'm calling for a huge boycott of their future feedback threads. Just don't post anything more than : "You have more than 6 months of feedback to work with that we have already given to you on a golden plate. Anything more that will be said here will be useless. Just like our feedback you deliberatly ignored or didn't consider to be relevent." We can be smarter than them and we will play the same game they are playing with us. It's time for the "Break "Their" Silence" Operation ! This message is especially adressed to Emperor-Norton, g-mK, Kaos_KidSWTOR, Ardarell_Solo, KaellSolaris, waterboytkd, DynamiCtagez, oofalong, Bugattiboy, ped_i, TACeMossie, Atlanis, Kakisback, Dyvim, etc ... Please consider this with seriousness and apply it to the next 3.3 PTS feedback thread and the future ones.

This thread has been posted in the feedback thread for 3.2 Mara/Sent and Guardian/Juggs changes =)

Everything is there, with more or less what we are all agreeing with since 2-3 months.

First, a real cross-server solution. Then a real matchmaking system. 8v8 death match would be fun. 8v8 unranked with the possibility to tag with a group of 8 again. New type of 16v16 objective based map (but the engine and servers won't be able to handle it). Speeders races would be cool. But no more player will still be playing this game when they will think about adding something new to PvP.

Sorry, but you're losing your time, hoping they will listen to their playerbase. Look at what they promised us with 3.1.1 for Sent/Mara, what we players gave them in the feedback thread to improve and wisely buff the class, and look what they finally did. Nothing more than 1% of what we asked. They just don't care, or they will only take in count our feedback for the next Xpac, when the meta of the game will be completely different and our ideas completely obsolete. You'd better give up and use your energy on something else. I think you can guess that I'm tired. Tired because we have been investing a lot of our energy to give them a solid feedback and a solid idea of what we are waiting for our class to be changed, bypassing the trolls or non constructive players posting in the thread. I have now given up, and I'm leaving the boat after 3 years on the game on my Combat Sent. Good luck with your hopes and your great ideas, it has been an honor to debate and discuss with you about what could be done for our beloved class to become viable, competitive and fun again. See you on another game sometime !

^ This ^ And this. Combine them : There won't be any PvP player left on the game soon if BW doesn't get their fingers out quickly. First promising MMO released will suck their playerbase out of SWTOR, and they will finally understand that they did everything wrong with 3.0 and 2015 "Road Ticket" (you can't call that a map).

End of my sub around the beginning of April (why did I resub for 2 months, seriously, what a ******* ...). I ain't gonna give more money to BW for SWTOR, since I think it's like wasting my money (and my time). I only PvP, and we don't get anything, they remove things instead of adding some (no more 8v8 for example, no more possibility to tag with 8 players in a group). No map for a year, only arenas and imbalanced seasons with a lot of wintrades for the BS rewards they show us 2 weeks before the end of it (nobody plays them until they show us the rewards and tiers). I'm playing a MMO to be able to play with more than 4 in the same group, like minimum 8 players from my guild (you know M like "massively"). No PvP content, no PvP class balance or at least an imperfect but correct one like we had with 2.10, a huge CC fest, which is no more incentive or fun and a resolve bar not working like it should. I paid ~20$ to have a worst balance, less skills and fun with my main class (Combat Sent) pre 3.0 (Shlt of Revan) and not any new PvP content. 3.1.1 just showed that they can't do anything to improve classes and buff or nerf classes that need it most. They really don't care about PvP, cause they don't know how to play PvP, they don't know their classes or even their game. So I'm gonna spend my money to try Everquest Next, Lost Ark, Crowfall, Warhammer 40k : Eternal Crusade, Warhammer 40K Space Hulk : Deathwing and eventually Black Desert. The one I'm waiting to play most is with no doubt Camelot Unchained. See you there if you manage to open your eyes and stop believe BW can do something great with this game *really hope they will be released before the end of 2016*

Ok, so you just ignored the hundreds of constructive feedback messages from the players in the sent/mara PTS thread. You didn't address the most important issues about the class : mobility and root/slow vulnerability. You just don't have a clue of what you are doing. End of the road for me, you'll never admit that you are just incompetents. (No you won't have my stuff, and I won't miss anybody that would say anything negative to this)

They are just clueless and impotent with the current state of the game. They ruined it with horrible decision and gameplay changes, and they don't know how to get back on track.

This or they just have no clue how to handle the class and how it works. The guy who created the sent and balanced it is no more in the dev team, there is no other possibility.

This is what I use, but you can switch between tier 2 and tier 3 utilities depending of your gameplay. http://dulfy.net/2014/10/13/swtor-disciplines-calculator-swtor_miner/?link=dGEAAAA8AwEBFwIEBQwOEBEA

Just a quick idea for Combat/Carnage : Give us our Blade Storm/Force Scream back as our hard hitting skill, and change the effect of Clashing Blast/Devastating Blast for it to be a medium hitting skill with a passive effect. This in addition of our 4.5 sec Precision/Gore window back of course. What I'd like to see is something like this : Clashing Blast/Devastating Blast : "Unleashes a blast of Force energy at the target dealing X energy damage (where X is a little bit less than the current Force Storm/Force Scream damage). In addition, you build 3 stacks of Ataru Blast, making your next 3 Ataru Form strikes deal (200%?) more damage. Each Ataru Form strike consumes 1 stack." Please feel free to comment =)