Jugg popped his CDs pushed him over the cliff - All honesty all Tiemie did was kite him off to get the health while the jugg pushed him over it then he CC'd him to return to the fight for the node... if your gonna call him a "good quality player" sarcastictly because of that then idk lol. in truth the "best quality players"and the ones who sit there and take a full ravage from Lycaon which ive seen you do countless times amirite?