Sadly you're right - there's no winning at times. The people I play with just aren't that serious about PvP (most anyway). I understand the OPs frustration with "premades" (4 of 8), but that's really just a part of the game. If you encounter it (not YOU Kendra, the OP), join with them, queue dodge, form your own group or go PvE for a bit. It's no more than half the enemy team...that leaves room for 4 noobs like me to screw up their best laid plans