Can anyone link me a good leveling build for a jedi guardian? I'm really not sure what I'm gonna do atm.

Juggs hitting for 6k that anyone with a brain can see coming and Maras taking time to set up is not he same as any random Op with no brain popping his CDs and facerolling a choice target that has no trinket.

Operative defending his broken class that takes no skill.

I know PvP playstyle is a joke, mainly because of Operatives but I meant in terms of : How do I get the new tier of gear?

Except that they do 3x more damage than us and can drop us for 20% in an opener.

So what do I need to get the new tier of gear if not a valor rank? Valor rank is just for fun now? Pretty cool Bioware lmfao

Operatives are fundamentally broken, this is how a game where I don't have a trinket up goes: Stun (oh, and a nice 4k+ crit for fun) - 4k Backstab - 3k lacerate - vanish - stun (and another nice 4k crit) - 3k lacerate - bye full BM gear assassin, oh btw I'm in centurion/champ gear. Skilless garbage class is skilless garbage.

Can someone condense these PvP changes? I got a free month so I figured I'd try it even though Assassins are pretty much utter garbage still giving Ops got buffed and we got no changes. They changed the medal system, or something, so how much Valor can I earn per game now? What does the new PvP tier required? How much less gold are we making now from WZs? Like is it nerfed bad? Is leveling through WZs better now? Sum up the end-game level changes for me.

Hey guys, Coming back to this game (sorta) after a two month break, deciding to pick back on my assassin (he's valor rank 65+ and all) and kinda curious what has changed. Do Deception 'Sin still get wtfSkillessClassPwned by Scoundrels/Ops? Seriously, this sounds like QQ but there has not been a more frustrating thing, to me, since Vanilla WoW rogues in the way a trash scoundrel in good gear can pretty much kill you w/o you ever moving. Is Darkness really that good? What gear should I be using for Darkness? I have the full set of BM Stalker's gear, should I be getting Survivor's gear? Do I use a Shield Gen for Darkness? I am 100% PvP, so that's the focus of all these questions

ITT: Bunch of Deception kids mad that their spec doesn't hit super high dmg. BTW I saw a Darkness Sin in BM gear hit 350k dmg.

Lightning reflexes is garbage, you should always be using a focus as Surging spec or you're nerfing the **** out of yourself.

Tank specs are for chumps with no skill who can't watch their position and not die to ranged.

Very nice, as always! Have you tried MAdness out? The burst is a little bit lighter but I break 350k damage in most decent duration fights, it's also a lot of fun when your friend plays a pyro-merc and you can DoT up a healer in battlemaster gear and use one other attack and know that he's dead. I will prolly end up trying Deception again when I get my BM lightsaber (2/3 and I still have my dailies up today *hopeful*) since it's a lot more weapon damagedependant than madness is (DOSE THRASH CRITS, mind you). But yeah I would greatly like to see you playing deception to be reminded of just how badly I fail at placing death fields in combat and how much better at it most are than I.

I don't know what kind of amazing messiah assassin you are but a powertech with half a brain will beat anything but a lolDarkness assassin any day. And on a personal note if you play Darkness for PvP it's to camouflage a complete and utter lack of any skill... just sayin'

You, sir, are a really ****** merc. I am a madness assassin and I regularly do 350k-400k damage in a single warzone (no Battlemaster gear yet, damned bags!) My buddy who I always hang out with is a pyro merc and I've seen him top 500k damage, and he does over 400k almost every game! You just need to l2p your merc better.

Just play like a little ***** like all the operatives do, only jump people at sub 30% because you have no skill or better yet pop all your CD and stunlock someone to 30%. If you can't kill someone with a 70% health deficit on you you're awful. Operatives are fine, their stun lock and burst is still the best of all the melee. They're a HELL of a lot better than deception and madness assassins and in my mind tank assassins don't exist because it's a skilless spec that's pointless medal padding.

How the hell does an icon being lit give you a seizure, I'm pretty sure people are just talking out of the butts. This is how it was originally. Furthermore the change is f'ing FANTASTIC and it makes it 100x easier to see ability CDs now.

I was there about 2 hours ago, camping them in our base like we do on my server and they all counted, got over 50 kills in under an hour.

Don't play darkness; play a spec that's not dumb as hell. Serious fk Darkness and everyone who plays it.

Kinda curious which is the most engaging story. Republic or Empire regardless, want something fun. Requirement: Not Inquisitor. For people who've done more than one, compare them please.

Given the state of things I'm tempted to try out Madness and see what I think about it but I have no idea how to spec, can anyone give me an idea? Also I have no idea what abilities to use.

Amen, brother.

By "All DPS classes" do you mean Juggs and tank spec'ed Sorcs? Sorcs can get it by Overcharging Dark Charge while being spec'ed for it and Juggs have a huge self heal. All the other classes you're thinking of have heals and that's how they get it.

And be even worse than we currently are when the "charge we're supposed to use" (according to who?) is Surging. Surging Charge is rubbish (another problem entirely) and you know it if you're an assassin, if you're not **** and stop thinking the grass is always greener.

This is, I guess, an extension to my other post. I am pretty ashamed of the assassin community who supports the Deception + DC nerf. Some of them are just jelly tanks who didn't want us dipping in their medals but a lot of them are actual Deception assassins. It's pretty ridiculous to think that anyone would supprt a nerf as completely uncalled for as this one. Many other classes are set up way better than us: marauders with their defensive CDs and Med armor, PTs with their defensive CDs and heavy armor (they can do equal damage to us, even in a tank spec) and the list goes on. Do you really think that an ability that required precise timing and thinking ahead "out-playing" your opponent, if you will, was really that broken? I think, from what I've gathered, is that the complaints stem from the assassins who hang out in DC all fight while being spec'ed for Deception. If that's the case that's like complaining about BH Mercs who spam tracer. Sure it might take you by surprise the first time and net the offensive player a kill, or in this case allow the offending player to do... something? (MASSIVE offensive nerf both to energy gen and Discharge) I just really don't understand the outcry pro-nerf here. We're already one of the worst melee out there. The burst is there but the setup required rarely happens in live PvP. In short, /sigh and /shame to all you assassins complaining about Deception having it too good. And /facepalm to all you other classes in this forum complaining while experiencing the symptoms of PEBKAC.